Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 03:40:26 -0700 From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> To: Ralf Mardorf <ralf-mardorf@riseup.net> Cc: FreeBSD Questions Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: DKIM Message-ID: <CAOgwaMtoL7cYLNyh41yVrHB7Rpy6SUQHD5C1GE2u2=TdBUcC-g@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20210822121658.13a66645@archlinux> References: <ace54ad97cd64644863b5cc11ca0aff9@AINET-EX13-S03.ainet.local> <CAOgwaMvejw%2BKHrxRxF2BfxGmO6dXCwvXBTXaYD6Ts9Q3NAXXVA@mail.gmail.com> <763F5C0F-E364-4C57-8D09-A0679F547979@simonhoffmann.net> <b10082d2dd584ea0ab883ad0567b4088@AINET-EX13-S03.ainet.local> <20210822121658.13a66645@archlinux>
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On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 3:17 AM Ralf Mardorf <ralf-mardorf@riseup.net> wrote: > On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 08:28:36 +0000, Cyprian Ambe wrote: > >If you state something like this, please also state how. The OP might > >be a beginner and thus not know how to search the repos. Pointing them > >just to some Google results (why Google btw) or giving them very brief > >instructions might thus not be very helpful as they might not know how > >to interpret that. > > Hi, > > it's pointless to discuss this. On some other mailing lists subscribers > would just quote the obligatory > > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before > > to a request as yours. > > At the risk of bikeshedding I'll play the Devil's advocate. Assuming > somebody is a "beginner", being in favour of Google rather than another > search engine makes much sense. It's probably still the search engine, > able to provide best recommendations, at least to those, who don't have > the skills to think about ideal search terms. Some alternative search > engines suffer from weak points, when doing researches by non-English > search terms. > > Some people are per se against Google for good reasons, but way too many > people are per se against Google for no good reasons at all. Let alone > excesses against Google, if people choose something even more bad as > a replacement for Google. > > A while back on another mailing list "Dissenter" was recommended as an > alternative to Firefox and especially to Google Chrome or any Google > Chromium based browser. Actually "Dissenter" is from "gab", see > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network) . Avoiding usage of > Google not necessarily is the better choice. > > I reply by this off-topic and bikeshedding appearing email since I very > often explicitly mention that FLOSS novices shouldn't replace Google by > other search engines, as long as they are novices who don't have a clue > what good FLOSS related search terms to use. Not that long ago a lot of > people searching for a FLOSS sound server (jackd) for instance got hits > related to LGBTQIA*, but not related to FLOSS. "Beginners" can stay with > DuckDuckGo and other search engines for researches related to t-shirts > or coffee machines. > > Regards, > Ralf > _______________________________________________ > > Really you are right . My opinion is that your answer is not bikeshedding but a very good explanation about what may be good understanding . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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