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Date:      Tue, 19 Apr 2016 11:57:45 +0300
From:      Slawa Olhovchenkov <slw@zxy.spb.ru>
To:        Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Julian Elischer <julian@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)
Message-ID:  <20160419085745.GF4841@zxy.spb.ru>
In-Reply-To: <20160419084129.GI1554@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <20160302235429.GD75641@FreeBSD.org> <57152CE5.5050500@FreeBSD.org> <9D4B9C8B-41D7-42BC-B436-D23EFFF60261@ixsystems.com> <20160418191425.GW1554@FreeBSD.org> <5715DD2E.903@freebsd.org> <20160419073117.GG1554@FreeBSD.org> <20160419083911.GG6614@zxy.spb.ru> <20160419084129.GI1554@FreeBSD.org>

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On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 08:41:29AM +0000, Glen Barber wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 11:39:11AM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 07:31:17AM +0000, Glen Barber wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 03:24:30PM +0800, Julian Elischer wrote:
> > > > We've managed to keep this disease out of BSD since I started to do it in
> > > > 1990. First we laughed/fumed at Sun's Solaris when they unbundled the
> > > > compiler. then we fumed at xorg when hey took a useful package and made 190
> > > > odd packages out of it. Please don't force this on us!
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > What isn't clear about the *numerous* statements that no one is being
> > > *forced* to use packaged base?
> > 
> > Because nowhere present roadmap about co-existing packaged base and
> > traditionsl install.
> > Because nowhere present roadmap of packaged base future.
> > Because package base is show-stoper for 11.0 relese -- this is read as
> > "11.0 switch to package base".
> > 
> 
> And nowhere did it say "buildworld/buildkernel would no longer work."

buildworld/builkernel is requrement for `make packages`.
I am expect of removing installworld/installkernel.
Yes, I am don read about this. But in IT I am need to read between the
lines.
Also, installkernel broken in 10.x for multiple kernels and not planed
to fix. Why I need to expect different to this?





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