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Date:      Mon, 17 Sep 2001 07:13:03 -0500
From:      Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>
To:        tlambert2@mindspring.com
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: RMS: A threat to society?
Message-ID:  <15269.59599.721255.236673@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <3BA3248D.5E47FDC9@mindspring.com>
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Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com> types:
> I changed the subject to reflect this thread, since it's really
> stupid in the context in which it's been placed.

Thank you.

> Mike Meyer wrote in response to Brett Glass:
> > I will agree that mine was a nasty, vindictive attack. On the other
> > hand, what you do not see is that your attack on RMS was at least as
> > nasty and vindictive. They are, essentially, the same attack -
> > comparing someone to a lunatic with no regard for human life.
> Actually, I think that usually, Brett is mostly attacking RMS'
> philosophy; RMS is merely a convenient example of someone who
> espouses that philosophy.

If Brett stuck to attacking the FSF, the GPL and the philosphy behind
them, he'd be doing his cause a great favor.  While I consider many of
his arguments *wrong*, they are arguments based on reason, and will
sway people. However, when he stoops to something like this:

> From: Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
> Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010912203732.0492cc80@localhost>
> Stallman, like the Islamic fundamentalists who did this terrible
> thing, promotes an extremist ideology which demonizes others, seeks
> to destroy them, and is motivated by spite and malice.

He comes off as - well, his description of Stallman accurately
describe the way he appears when he starts attacking
RMS. Unfortunately, anyone who tries to point this out to him he
instantly labeled as a "dune coon" - uh, sorry, make that - "fanatic
RMS sympathizer" without regard to anything that person has actually
said about RMS, the GPL or the FSF.

> In short, RMS is a scar, a shaved head, a monocle, and a bald
> cat away from being a villian in an Austin Powers movie...

I think that would require a major upgrade in his personal hygiene and
empathy, though it's been long enough since I've seen him that that
might have changed.

	<mike

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