Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:21:40 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" <doconnor@gsoft.com.au> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com> Cc: (Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven) <jruigrok@via-net-works.nl>, (Warner Losh) <imp@village.org>, (Matt Dillon) <dillon@earth.backplane.com>, (Poul-Henning Kamp) <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG, (Daniel Eischen) <eischen@vigrid.com>, (Kris Kennaway) <kris@citusc.usc.edu> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc inetd.conf Message-ID: <XFMail.001010142140.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> In-Reply-To: <200010100435.VAA18406@usr01.primenet.com>
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On 10-Oct-00 Terry Lambert wrote: > Won't this make it difficult to bootstrap a headless 1U box > from a Windows or Macintosh box? Download an SSH client for Windows or the Mac. A quick web search shows up several. > I'd bootstrap it from FreeBSD, but of course, FreeBSD can't > use my Winmodem, so I'm left with no connection to the net, > or no ssh to the 1U box, take your pick. Get a PCMCIA modem? > I guess we could all go out and buy a PCMCIA modem for our > laptops, just so that we can have telnet and ftp disabled by > default... Uhh, the number of people who have a laptop with a winmodem, no PCMCIA modem, and no SSH client for Windows who bootstrap 1U RU servers is pretty small. Go and download one and put yourself in the majority :) > Personally, I think this one-upmansship with OpenBSD is silly; > no one is "secure by default", and anyone claiming they are is > just leading users down the primrose path, until the next CERT > advisory makes them out to be a liar. <shrugs> If you think its one-upmanship, good for you, but lots of people think that 'off by default' is a good thing. (and some of them even install on headless servers!) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message
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