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Date:      Tue, 10 Mar 2026 11:21:35 +0300
From:      Gleb Popov <arrowd@freebsd.org>
To:        Yuri <yuri@freebsd.org>
Cc:        ports-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-ports-main@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: git: 60817c50b4c8 - main - Mk/Uses: Add certs.mk to handle dependency on security/ca_root_nss
Message-ID:  <CALH631mEY3VzSm1-P1Hu-V1GoOAfhD5YJ8h6U9Vi8r%2B1Mrckhw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Mar 10, 2026 at 11:04 AM Yuri <yuri@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
> On 3/10/26 00:51, Gleb Popov wrote:
>
> It does. A Uses module must have an added value.
>
> Ease of use, elegance, and fewer characters and lines is value.

Copy-pasting a canonical *_DEPENDS line is as easy as writing "USES=certs".
Elegance is subjective.

> This sounds nice on paper but the reality begs to differ.
> portmgr review requests often remain unanswered for months or years.

portmgr is slow, this is true. But this does not give you an excuse to
do whatever you want.
If you want to change something, do it from the inside - apply for
portmgr-lurker, become
a member, then change the policy or push whatever you want without
looking back on other committers.
But in your current position you can't be acting as a lone wolf.

I'd like to remind you about numerous ports of yours that require
updating [1] [2] [3]
and AI prompt stuff that you put under Tools/scripts without any usage examples.
It'd be great if you focus on these issues first.

[1] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=289342
[2] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=289570
[3] https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=289582


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