Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 11:05:08 -0700 From: Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> To: Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NATD: failed to write packet back (Permission denied) Message-ID: <3A2696D4.7ECEE367@softweyr.com> References: <001701c057c4$1e1ac010$0200a8c0@n2> <20001126110756.C34151@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> <000b01c057dd$f9423ab0$0200a8c0@n2> <20001126113720.A70192@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> <3A2183E7.6039C582@FreeBSD.org> <20001126140033.E70192@149.211.6.64.reflexcom.com> <3A218C5B.9F677E51@FreeBSD.org> <200011270130.UAA88239@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <3A221402.D88321D8@softweyr.com> <14882.49100.131730.989201@nomad.yogotech.com> <3A24AC77.51EF28C@softweyr.com> <200011291507.KAA16392@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <3A253A44.D7EA9113@softweyr.com> <200011291802.NAA17650@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
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Garrett Wollman wrote:
>
> <<On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:17:56 -0700, Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> said:
>
> > But you keep saying "on my home machine" and seem to insist that having
> > a single machine on the internet at home is somehow normal.
>
> To a large fraction of the world's population, having a ``home
> machine'' of any kind is out of the ordinary. Most of the people who
> have net access today have only one computer.
>
> In any case, the actual number doesn't make much difference -- the
> same argument (that you are perfectly capable of setting up your
> machines securely) still holds.
No, it doesn't, I have Windows machines on the net. They cannot be
secured without a firewall.
--
"Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?"
Wes Peters Softweyr LLC
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