Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 07:55:50 -0700 From: Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com> To: "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <arch@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: xstr, mkstr Message-ID: <CAF6rxgn%2BEGtLeNg4x_jtcmO_CQ8x5As9ah%2BYT4%2Bg3RRf1JdfHw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201807031445.w63EjJmF038596@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> References: <CAF6rxgnqEkgq4_FaZasL1z3vx0r1jOG0WGrdnMAXFig%2Byu3WpQ@mail.gmail.com> <201807031445.w63EjJmF038596@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
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On 3 July 2018 at 07:45, Rodney W. Grimes <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: >> On 24 June 2018 at 02:51, Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com> wrote: >> > Why are these tools in base? As far as I could tell these tools are >> > un-used in the build process and otherwise specialized tools. Is there >> > any reason we still have them in the toolchain or in base? >> >> Anyone? They don't cause acute problems, but having specialized and >> specific tools like this don't seem like they belong. > > What appears to be unused or specialized to one user can be > very differeent to another. It is best to keep an open mind > that there are many very diverse users of BSD. <snark> I absolutely agree with you! I did not know much about their history, beyond them being used in low-memory environments. In fact, I agree with you so much so that I think that before doing anything about them, I should email an appropriate list to find out more about them. Perhaps arch@ is a good list? hackers@ might also be good, but tends to have less of a reply-rate. </snark> > "As far as I can tell" needs to be a bit stronger, Agreed. But before doing work we should first make sure that the work will be productive. > have you > removed them from the system and had an exp run done to make > sure they are not used? I have locally built a system without them and built several ports. This is certainly not an exp-run, but want to hold off on filing for an exp-run before this conversation about their usefulness is complete. -- Eitan Adler
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