Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:01:49 +0200 From: Alexandr Kovalenko <alexandr.kovalenko@gmail.com> To: gahr@freebsd.org Cc: cvs-ports@freebsd.org, miwi@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/net-im/openfire Makefile distinfo pkg-plist ports/net-im/openfire/files patch-build-build.xml Message-ID: <AANLkTik4a_BH1DZt0cEh0nB1yg5RtM=XqwXkFeR8Xoo2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20110111081302.GD21802@gahrfit.gahr.ch> References: <201101031236.p03CanQY094523@repoman.freebsd.org> <AANLkTinmS957P%2BL8EX=o3rAq2ZjXy1DrfR684kkUP9RT@mail.gmail.com> <20110111081302.GD21802@gahrfit.gahr.ch>
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On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Pietro Cerutti <gahr@gahr.ch> wrote: > On 2011-Jan-10, 20:33, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote: >> Beta? >> >> May I ask, why this went into net-im/openfire port, but not to new >> port net-im/openfire-devel ? > > Ok, I guess I owe an explanation here, since quite a few people have > raised concerns about me committing a beta version to openfire/. > > I am personally against -devel ports. These tends to get marked as > IGNORE or anyway no longer be valid after the -devel branch has turned > to stable. I prefer to keep the latest available version in myport/, > upon user request, keep previous (stable and maintained) versions in > myport10, myport11, etc... See for example java/netbeans, java/netbeans5, > java/netbeans55, java/netbeans61. This brings two advantages: > > - the cost of maintaining a previous version in myport10/ is ~= 0 > - the myport/ directory always contains the latest available version > > It is a porter's discretion to ponder wheter a particular release > version is stable enough to get into the main myport/ directory. > > In this particular case, openfire-3.7.0.beta seemed to my workable enough. Can you understand, that many of people use ports in production systems (surprise!) and expect NO beta versions in non -devel ports, no sudden breakage of their systems without any notice in UPDATING and so on, whatever you personally think about that. Ports system is not your personal sandbox/private branch of ports. It is what people use on their production systems. If you want to commit beta, you have 2 choices: 1. Wait until non-beta to commit. 2. Commit beta to -devel port after repocopy. > Users have reported problems upgrading their configuration, and this is > the reason for me requesting a repocopy to backport the previous version > to openfire36. Even if (although, I think it is totally incorrect) you really wanted/it was needed to commit -beta version, you should have reversed order of procedures: 1. Become aware of incompatibilities and problems 2. Repocopy of openfire to openfire36 3. Commit your -beta to openfire 4. ADD to UPDATING file note about this, because such change won't get > I welcome any feedbacks on this matter. > > Best Regards, > >> >> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Pietro Cerutti <gahr@freebsd.org> wrote: >> > gahr 2011-01-03 12:36:49 UTC >> > >> > FreeBSD ports repository >> > >> > Modified files: >> > net-im/openfire Makefile distinfo pkg-plist >> > Removed files: >> > net-im/openfire/files patch-build-build.xml >> > Log: >> > - Update to 3.7.0.beta >> > Release notes: http://community.igniterealtime.org/blogs/ignite/2010/08/26/openfire-370-beta-is-released >> > >> > Revision Changes Path >> > 1.28 +4 -4 ports/net-im/openfire/Makefile >> > 1.20 +2 -3 ports/net-im/openfire/distinfo >> > 1.2 +0 -10 ports/net-im/openfire/files/patch-build-build.xml (dead) >> > 1.14 +29 -2 ports/net-im/openfire/pkg-plist >> > _______________________________________________ >> > cvs-all@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/cvs-all >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "cvs-all-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Alexandr Kovalenko >> http://uafug.org.ua/ > > -- > Pietro Cerutti > The FreeBSD Project > gahr@FreeBSD.org > > PGP Public Key: > http://gahr.ch/pgp > -- Alexandr Kovalenko http://uafug.org.ua/
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