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Date:      Sat, 28 Sep 2013 01:00:58 +0200
From:      David Demelier <demelier.david@gmail.com>
To:        Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-stable stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, "Teske, Devin" <Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com>
Subject:   Re: 9.2-PRE: switch off that stupid "Nakatomi Socrates"
Message-ID:  <52460E2A.3090603@gmail.com>
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On 28.09.2013 00:32, Teske, Devin wrote:
> 
> On Sep 27, 2013, at 3:06 PM, David Demelier wrote:
> 
>> On 21.09.2013 12:40, Matthew Seaman wrote:
>>> On 21/09/2013 11:31, O. Hartmann wrote:
>>>> I'd like to switch off this silly "Nakatomi Socrates" message which
>>>> reminds me on Linux and their childish naming schemes.
>>>>
>>>> It is only cosmetics, but it bothers me whenever I switch on the laptop.
>>>>
>>>> I guess there is a switch already prsent to have in the bootloader
>>>> config?
>>>
>>> It's turned off by default in more recent 9.2-STABLE
>>>
>>> Otherwise:
>>>
>>> loader_logo="orb"
>>>
>>> in /boot/loader.conf  -- see loader.conf(5)
>>>
>>> 	Cheers,
>>>
>>> 	Matthew
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have loader_logo="orb" and I still have a message at the right bottom
>> with that stupid joke.
>>
> 
> "Named Releases" is far from a joke.
> 
> Maybe you'd like something a bit more boring like "9.2-RELEASE"
> 
> The fact is... there is (and only ever will be) one iteration of FreeBSD 9.2.
> 
> I assume that you have had no clue up until this point that there was yet
> another BSD 9.2. A fictitious version of BSD in a 1980's film, named...
> 
> 	Nakatomi Socrates

Yes I know that, I've already seen the image a lot a few weeks ago.

> 
> Yeah, we could have decided to let the opportunity pass; to show that we're
> the first BSD to ever hit 9.2 out of all the flavors, producing the first ever
> non-fictitious BSD 9.2...
> 
> But where would the fun be in that?
> 

FreeBSD is not Linux, I (and again, I'm not the only one) thought the
idea of naming Linux 3.11 "Linux for workgroups" very stupid. In the
Linux world we like to add funny messages / easter eggs directly in the
kernel source, but I think this silly and not serious. So I don't really
want to bring these Linux manners into our FreeBSD world.

> Rest assured... I've not seen *any* hollywood films with a number higher
> than 9.2... so our future looks pretty darn boring.
> 
> The "name" for 10.0-RELEASE could very well be NULL or boring ol'
> 
> 	10.0-RELEASE
> 
> But one thing is clear.
> 
> There is a real tangible benefit to seeing the version on the boot screen.
> 
> As we move to integrate BE's into the Forth boot screen, it may become
> paramount to know what version of loader(8) you're using.
> 
> So please try not to be so judge-mental about these things.
> 
> This is a real tangible improvement and simply because you've heard
> that those crazy people in Linux-land are naming their releases...
> 
> That had zero bearing on why we did it. We may never name another release
> ever again.
> 
> I personally would like to see loader(8) set the value to include an SVN revision
> so that everytime you rebuild loader(8), the version info updates; displayed
> prominently in the bottom right corner (which of course... you'll again be free to
> override it if you don't like it... just as you are free to completely disable the
> entire menu by adding beastie_disable=YES to loader.conf(8)).
> 




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