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Date:      Wed, 19 Jun 2019 10:53:12 -0600
From:      Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>
To:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
Cc:        Enji Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Michael Tuexen <tuexen@freebsd.org>, "koobs@freebsd.org" <koobs@freebsd.org>, Bryan Drewery <bdrewery@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: error: yacc.h: No such file or directory
Message-ID:  <9a0398e387b34b0f12a9c107a440477153ba147d.camel@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <201906191630.x5JGUJ3H018954@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
References:  <201906191630.x5JGUJ3H018954@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>

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On Wed, 2019-06-19 at 09:30 -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> > In message <
> > fffbe5d47e3515c960429ab416bf2ba234f9671d.camel@freebsd.org>
> > , Ian Le
> > pore writes:
> > > On Tue, 2019-06-18 at 07:01 -0700, Enji Cooper wrote:
> > > > > On Jun 18, 2019, at 06:59, Enji Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Jun 18, 2019, at 06:53, Ian Lepore <ian@freebsd.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > ...
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Last Saturday, Bryan (cc'd) made a series of commits
> > > > > > (r349061-69) 
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > were all somehow related to dependency processing in the
> > > > > > build.  I
> > > > > > don't know the details, just remember seeing some commits
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > that.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I remember that as well. This might have changed the
> > > > > dependency
> > > > > order subtly, introducing a race.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The headers might not be built in all cases in time now.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > -Enji
> > > > > 
> > > > > PS This is one of the reasons why I wasn???t quick to
> > > > > discount Peter
> > > > > Jeremy???s reported build issue.
> > > > 
> > > > Correction: I meant Julian Stacey.
> > > 
> > > Julian Stacey has 3 problems:
> > > 
> > >  1. Missing opt_cam.h
> > >  2. Missing yacc.h
> > >  3. A years-long inability to report a problem without hurling
> > > personal
> > > insults at the project and everyone associated with it.
> > > 
> > > Because of #3, I don't much care about 1 and 2.
> > 
> > Bingo! My point exactly!
> 
> You can't understand the frustration of 25 years of
> having system build breakage on a pretty regular basis
> as a trigger point for anger?
> 

I understand how inappropriate it is for a project member to condone or
excuse the verbal abuse of other project members.

Somone with anger management problems likely shouldn't be running
current, where a certain amount of short-term breakage is normal and
expected.

-- Ian




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