Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 15:44:56 +0800 From: Kevin Lo <kevlo@FreeBSD.org> To: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> Cc: arch@FreeBSD.org, gshapiro@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RFC: Sendmail deprecation ? Message-ID: <20171208074456.GA2035@ns.kevlo.org> In-Reply-To: <20171206223341.iz3vj4zz2igqczy7@ivaldir.net> References: <20171206223341.iz3vj4zz2igqczy7@ivaldir.net>
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On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 11:33:41PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to propose the deprecation then removal of sendmail in base. > > Deprecation will happen in the form of FreeBSD 12.0 being built WITHOUT_SENDMAIL > by default > > removal would happen in FreeBSD 13.0 > > sendmail in base it not really usable as a full featured mta due to the fact it > does not support anything an entreprised grade mta setup would require: ldap > support for example, check the number of options available in the sendmail port. > Hmm, dma(8) says: dma is not intended as a replacement for real, big MTAs like sendmail(8) or postfix(1). I seriously don't think dma(8) is a full featured mta. I would recommend OpenSMTPD. OpenSMTPD makes smtp easier to implement and manage and more secure. > Users for that use case would be better served by the port version of sendmail. > > The other kind of users are the one using the default setup of sendmail: > relaying emails externally and deliver locally. > > We have dma(8) which is way smaller than sendmail(8) have a configuration file > understandable by most users (yet that is subjecttive) and have the setuid > binary capsicumized. > > dma(8) has been modified to fix issues reported by clusteradm preventing its > usage in real life situations: > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=208263 > > I think only providing dma(8) by default and let users choose a full featured > mta via packages is a good solution and better for both sendmail users and non > sendmail users. Why not vice versa? > If noone express a strong opinion by then, I will turn sendmail option off by > december 15th. > > Best regards, > Bapt Kevin
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