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Date:      Tue, 6 Apr 2021 12:39:43 +0200
From:      Stefan Bethke <stb@lassitu.de>
To:        Helge Oldach <freebsd@oldach.net>
Cc:        emaste@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, hausen@punkt.de
Subject:   Re: Deprecating base system ftpd?
Message-ID:  <0C4AA33F-713B-4AA9-A5B1-6C5717F00FBB@lassitu.de>
In-Reply-To: <202104061008.136A8jqr083015@nuc.oldach.net>

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Am 06.04.2021 um 12:08 schrieb Helge Oldach <freebsd@oldach.net>:
> 
> Stefan Bethke wrote on Tue, 06 Apr 2021 11:29:34 +0200 (CEST):
>> Strato did disable FTP access over a year ago,
> 
> Actually it was effective October 20, 2020.

You are correct; I was remembering the announcement, not the switch off.

> and instructed customers on how to use SSH-based access instead,
> 
> They have a completely different incentive (avoiding cleartext passwords
> over the Internet, and reportedly they had a number of cases where
> customers where affected by password snooping) than a local admin person
> on a local network not exposed to the public.
> 
>> so it's definitely possible, and people are moving towards more secure
>> protocols, even when (non-technical) end users are affected.
> 
> No doubt about that. Any information about the ticket volume triggered
> by this deprecation?

I have no insight into Strato's operations, but from having to support a bunch of non-technical people who are customers, I'd say it was relatively painless, because Strato provided good instructions, and the (non-techincal) customers were using GUI clients already anyway where they only needed to switch from FTP to SFTP.

Stefan

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