Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2012 12:04:00 -0800 From: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> To: Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org> Cc: stable@freebsd.org, "K. Macy" <kmacy@freebsd.org>, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?z_W=B1sikowski?= <lukasz@wasikowski.net>, Arnaud Lacombe <lacombar@gmail.com>, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>, Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net>, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: flowtable usable or not Message-ID: <CAJ-VmomuSTAgtfYUcAepDkCUr5x%2BbVgmdyOhKjBPSSQ5GcxTWw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F5285CF.3010001@FreeBSD.org> References: <20120221143537.Horde.deyFDZjmRSRPQ52pxBIpnLA@webmail.leidinger.net> <BA7FFA2D-DEE6-4FB7-AE26-0BC79CBFD8C0@lists.zabbadoz.net> <4F4BA707.5070608@wasikowski.net> <4F4C3FE7.3040802@FreeBSD.org> <CACqU3MWx3pMMDncvOita-OAgfe=NPKtwKE2WeB_mdcYwozY81Q@mail.gmail.com> <4F4D51CB.2010508@FreeBSD.org> <4F4D5E5D.9040302@FreeBSD.org> <4F4DD288.5060106@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_O%2BCt6yhRL=B9oxgkL8EgLxZdo7-KFO2C8HqiN1=Kx_bw@mail.gmail.com> <4F4ED889.2070608@FreeBSD.org> <4F500BB9.4040307@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_OfeB7Kb=pgjGq0uffLJdJROGoCaGz=25Jito-kweAxRQ@mail.gmail.com> <4F5088CA.1090108@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_MZM6Gn_zPzxz5tLuzPOW=kK9YxqmrLTyitvGfAPhrkbw@mail.gmail.com> <4F510FBD.50008@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_M7mYV5r_AZEcAxi2wWuQ8u0aXTG-H1YaCLXLUytQd9wA@mail.gmail.com> <4F5117A6.2030003@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_Mcf=2S_niBf=S6foS7W7pdgKVcOp9n26nMzzc33igp8w@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-Vmo=3k59ss77AC8VstVfwHruvoH=6tKek7Z1nsL9YWoOXqA@mail.gmail.com> <4F5285CF.3010001@FreeBSD.org>
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2012/3/3 Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>: > On 03/02/2012 16:05, Adrian Chadd wrote: >> Try breaking that cycle. > > ... one of the things I've been asking for years. :) > > Julian's right though, I think PC-BSD will help, but I still think that > committers should run -current. I've asked privately for our committers > to go back to -current and then have some dedicated development time > where we work together to fix the problems that *we* find in order to > make the project more desktop-friendly overall. I was (figuratively) > laughed out of the room. There's a magic intersection between "need to run current" and "need to keep stuff unbroken enough to get work done." I have 9.0-REL and -HEAD boxes at the moment which I actually use for development. But enough things are going wonky with kde4 for now that getting "actual work done" is hard. Upgrading ports will become a lot less painful with pkgng, so I hope to try and migrate to that when it's (more) ready. This is the unfortunate side effect of things being mostly run by volunteers who have to work to eat. :-) Adrian
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