Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:54:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com> To: Michael Beckmann <petzi@apfel.de> Cc: Scott Hess <scott@avantgo.com>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Limitations in FreeBSD Message-ID: <199910290054.RAA13725@apollo.backplane.com> References: <19991029011348.B2757@apfel.de> <199910282253.PAA02302@dingo.cdrom.com> <19991029020253.A3005@apfel.de> <15f901bf219e$20df55c0$1e80000a@avantgo.com> <19991029024742.B3005@apfel.de>
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:> Urk! I don't mean to be insulting, but the notion that you would roll
:> _any_ solution out for a problem of this size based on word of mouth freaks
:> the crap out of me.
:
:Hey ! You guys seem to have pretty strict opinions about how to solve problems.
:Right now I am just investigating the options and asking for the properties of
:this FreeBSD OS (where news is not the only reason for finding out about them).
:
:> If you have a genuine need for 500Gig of news spool,
:
:This is roughly 10 days of newsfeed, btw.
This is roughly 20 days of newsfeed if one take the porn, warez, and
binaries groups, which contain mostly junk, and try to hold onto them
for the full expiration time. If the person setting up the system
were to spend a little time filtering out the junk and/or adjusting the
expiration it is fairly easy to get away with much smaller spools and an
order of magnitude cheaper system. At BEST I wound up using around a
40G spool. If the person isn't willing to filter he pretty much deserves
all the pain he creates for himself :-(. Roughly speaking, less then 1%
of a typical userbase even bothers to read usenet news.
In anycase... I don't know what INN is doing these days, but I do know
that lots of people run large spools with it on 32 bit machines just
fine. Most of the assumptions I've heard so far are absurd for *any*
UNIX box, not just an intel box. INN is a heavy-weight system but
it doesn't eat hundreds of file descriptors per nnrpd process.
-Matt
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