Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 11:39:40 -0700 From: "K. Macy" <kmacy@freebsd.org> To: Brandon Allbery <allbery.b@gmail.com> Cc: Dimitry Andric <dim@freebsd.org>, Andrea Brancatelli <abrancatelli@schema31.it>, Kubilay Kocak <koobs@freebsd.org>, Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net>, Erich Dollansky <erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com>, Johannes Dieterich <dieterich.joh@gmail.com>, freebsd-stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Benchmarks results for FreeBSD 11 Message-ID: <CAHM0Q_O9CaEQBy=7VUfr%2BVC=0wP5Pa9R4T9dnbJZT7Q%2Bi90rbg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAKFCL4UHt1dkTL5szg3QFVCVJot4WZbXDvu1c1%2BFXSxqHjHQ-w@mail.gmail.com> References: <20160819073422.4292997b@X220.alogt.com> <af0fefab-69d7-f0a9-3d6d-4a9891d5a156@FreeBSD.org> <20160821144505.27c0f55d@X220.alogt.com> <827183a944ee4052649c152d65204444@schema31.it> <20160822101423.GF18643@e-new.0x20.net> <CAHM0Q_My2otDtVSzTiQMHE=ty%2B7kEBP%2BwfFofBvOzoz8ro%2B-sQ@mail.gmail.com> <79F32FFD-BBDF-4359-A4CB-C80A3FC59EAD@FreeBSD.org> <CAHM0Q_Ng%2BbYQrKvavCEB_B-jhtRaMNnBvTz2wZEaKSnUYr-yPA@mail.gmail.com> <CAKFCL4UHt1dkTL5szg3QFVCVJot4WZbXDvu1c1%2BFXSxqHjHQ-w@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sunday, August 28, 2016, Brandon Allbery <allbery.b@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 1:57 PM, K. Macy <kmacy@freebsd.org > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kmacy@freebsd.org');>> wrote: > >> Can you point to other platforms where the default system compiler has >> disabled functionality? >> > > You have to install LLVM from elsewhere to get full functionality on OS X: > Apple only ships the parts that Xcode cares about. OTOH, this pretty much > only impacts things that want to use LLVM IR. (On the gripping hand, for > some people that is about as relevant as OpenMP.) > > There were some late SunOS 4 releases where you had (p)cc in the base, > with various tools that people expect missing, and had to install SunSoft C > to get a decent compiler and all the tools. (They removed almost all of it > from Solaris 2, of course.) > > Interesting. The primary OSX user doesn't use a compiler. The SunOS example strikes me as being the closest. And it's because they wanted to sell you extra software. Here it's the notion that there is a compiler for "base" and then ports are "everything else". Ultimately, from the user's perspective "base" will just be a particularly well integrated set of packages - including, rather idiosyncratically, a compiler that only has the features required by that package set. -M > -- > brandon s allbery kf8nh sine nomine > associates > allbery.b@gmail.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','allbery.b@gmail.com');> > ballbery@sinenomine.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ballbery@sinenomine.net');> > unix, openafs, kerberos, infrastructure, xmonad > http://sinenomine.net >
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