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Date:      Thu, 14 Jan 1999 07:30:32 +0100 (CET)
From:      Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
Cc:        Andrzej Bialecki <abial@nask.pl>, picoBSD <small@FreeBSD.ORG>, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Trinux (+ a proposal)
Message-ID:  <XFMail.990114073032.asmodai@wxs.nl>
In-Reply-To: <89416.916262346@zippy.cdrom.com>

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On 13-Jan-99 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
>> Well, since kzip has been fubared by the ELF transition, do we have a
>> suitable replacement anyway for the unpacking? Or am I thinking in the
>> wrong unpacking terms?
> 
> You're thinking in the wrong unpacking terms - we don't want to
> compress binaries since it makes their contents impossible to share.

OK noted, so you mean unpacking as in preparing the stuff for actual use,
e.g. placement/creation of dirs and files.
 
>> OK, dumb remark mayhaps, but what would be the benefit of using
>> different
>> scripting languages for every nook and cranny in the OS? I mean, we're
>> using Forth in the new boot{loader|strapper|configuration} and then we
>> are
> 
> It's not sufficient to the task.  Forth is a fine language for small
> boot programs and such, but I wouldn't want to write complex UIs or
> anything else in it.  And I would have been happy to use TCL in the
> boot blocks instead if I'd had a couple of hundred K to play with
> rather than just 20K or so. :)

Well, does the full TCL 8.1 (which I am guessing you are wanting to use)
fit into the space you have or are we going to have to play Quake-axeman on
the TCL distribution?

>> Jordan, you are referring to the shrink/grow abilities such as VxFS and
>> JFS them have (JFS can only grow I thought)?
> 
> No, I'm just referring to a resizable MFS.  Don't get carried away. :)

Well, that's basically the same as what VxFS and JFS do, they can grow
whenever ye need more space and shrink (VxFS) when space gets freed.

>> Sorry, RTLD? Real-Time LoaDer?
> 
> Run-time.  UTSL. :)

I know, I know, but given the fact that I am currently persuing/reading
about every piece of the whole OS (including ports et al) forgive me for
not remembering everything at this stage of source newbie =)

---
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven    A veil of smoke is what I am,
asmodai(at)wxs.nl                         I wait and I wait...
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