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Date:      Sat, 11 May 2019 17:59:02 +0200
From:      "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>
To:        Eugene Grosbein <eugen@grosbein.net>
Cc:        Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>, freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FCP-101: obsolete driver removal planned for 2019-05-18
Message-ID:  <201905111559.x4BFx2Fe030820@fire.js.berklix.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message "Sat, 11 May 2019 21:48:08 %2B0700." <3c911071-f794-1e27-87e1-16a789a95852@grosbein.net>

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Eugene Grosbein wrote:
> 11.05.2019 21:32, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> 
> >> I've posted a review to remove obsolete 10 and 10/100 Ethernet drivers
> >> as previous approved in FCP-101.
> >> The following drivers are slated for
> >> removal from FreeBSD-HEAD (to be FreeBSD-13):
> >>
> >> ae, bm, cs, de, ed, ep, ex, fe, pcn, sf, sn, tl, tx, txp, vx, wb, xe
> > 
> > OMG ! ed ! That EOL's loads of PC boxes I have (& a show box of
> > spare)  that will never be able to upgrade.
> 
> Do those boxes have 10M-only or 100Mbps variants of ed(4)?
> What kind of hardware do they have (CPU and memory-wise)?

Thanks for question.  I ran a quick check:
cd /usr/src; 
#	Apply my patches:
#	customise `pwd` 
#	http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/bin/.csh/customise
cd /sys/amd64/conf
grep device [A-Z][A-Z][A-Z][A-Z].small | grep ed
DUAL.small:device ed
FILM.small:device ed
KING.small:device ed
LAPA.small:device ed
LAPD.small:device ed
LAPL.small:device ed
LAPN.small:device ed
LOFT.small:device ed
MINI.small:device ed
SCAN.small:device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 15 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 0x10000
SLIM.small:device ed
SNOW.small:device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 5 iomem 0xc8000
WIND.small:device ed

My master config file is
 http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/FreeBSD/src/jhs/sys/amd64/conf/HOLZ
(Its public but only for my convenience, not asking anyone to
struggle with that!)

None of those machines are newish, & some very old, some obsolete,
some still very useful, eg host SCAN running 4.11 embedded !
http://berklix.com/scanjet/

I need to look more what I can scrap, but ed was extremely common once,
inc for pcmcia, I bet loads of machine have embedded ed & ed0.

If its a shortage of hardware is the problem let me know.

Cheers,
Julian
-- 
Julian Stacey, Consultant Systems Engineer, BSD Linux Unix, Munich Aachen Kent
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