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Date:      Fri, 21 May 2021 08:36:49 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net>
Cc:        Conrad Meyer <cem@freebsd.org>, Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de>,  "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Reducing SIGINFO verbosity
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On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 7:38 AM Ceri Davies <ceri@submonkey.net> wrote:

> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 03:57:17PM -0700, Conrad Meyer wrote:
> > No, I don=E2=80=99t think there=E2=80=99s any reason to default it diff=
erently on stable
> vs
> > current. I think it=E2=80=99s useful (and I prefer the more verbose for=
m, which
> > isn=E2=80=99t the default).
>
> I agree that there's no reason for the default to be different, but I
> would say that it is much easier for someone who knows that there is a
> default to be changed to change it, than it is for someone who does not.
> Therefore, if the information is not useful to someone who does not know
> how to get rid of it, then it should default to not being displayed,
> IMHO.
>

I plan on changing the default for non-INVARIANT kernels back to
the old behavior.

INVARIANT kernels will keep this behavior because it's a debugging
kernel and this is one more thing to help debugging problems.

Warner

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 7:38 AM Ceri =
Davies &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ceri@submonkey.net">ceri@submonkey.net</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Thu, =
May 20, 2021 at 03:57:17PM -0700, Conrad Meyer wrote:<br>
&gt; No, I don=E2=80=99t think there=E2=80=99s any reason to default it dif=
ferently on stable vs<br>
&gt; current. I think it=E2=80=99s useful (and I prefer the more verbose fo=
rm, which<br>
&gt; isn=E2=80=99t the default).<br>
<br>
I agree that there&#39;s no reason for the default to be different, but I<b=
r>
would say that it is much easier for someone who knows that there is a<br>
default to be changed to change it, than it is for someone who does not.<br=
>
Therefore, if the information is not useful to someone who does not know<br=
>
how to get rid of it, then it should default to not being displayed,<br>
IMHO.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I plan on changing the default fo=
r non-INVARIANT kernels back to</div><div>the old behavior.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>INVARIANT kernels will keep this behavior because it&#39;s a debu=
gging</div><div>kernel and this is one more thing to help debugging problem=
s.</div><div><br></div><div>Warner</div></div></div>

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