Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:32:33 -0600 From: Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> To: Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org, rpaulo@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, bz@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, anchie@FreeBSD.org, "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com> Subject: Re: svn commit: r211501 - in head/sys: modules modules/send netinet netinet6 sys Message-ID: <F198280F-6D5E-4620-9AB6-25E33FB6F726@samsco.org> In-Reply-To: <4C718595.5050304@FreeBSD.org> References: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1008211534450.1942@qbhto.arg> <20100821.191255.1023414010414033264.imp@bsdimp.com> <4C717990.6020601@FreeBSD.org> <20100822.134229.550118873867470111.imp@bsdimp.com> <4C718595.5050304@FreeBSD.org>
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On Aug 22, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > On 08/22/2010 12:42, M. Warner Losh wrote: > >> I think you're drawing the wrong conclusion here. > > Doubtful. :) > >> My point is that we have trusted folks in the past to do the right >> thing, even when they don't say they will. > > And my point, which I will make one last time, is that this model hasn't worked. Yes, it works sometimes, but we still have a bunch of stuff that doesn't have _any_ man page at all. If we want to continue the transition to being a more professional OS that isn't acceptable. > > I've already made the points about why working through the documentation _before_ committing is valuable, and that the simple step of requiring this is an easy way to make sure the problem we have doesn't get any worse. Clearly there isn't a lot of sympathy for either of these perspectives in the wider community, so c'est la vie. > > But I was serious about my other comment, if you(pl.) are not willing to make a change to improve the situation, you lose the right to complain down the road when the man pages don't magically appear. > >> towards Ann > > Wrong name. :) > Doug, you're being a grade-A asshole in this entire discussion. The merits of your argument are being completely overshadowed by your patronizing attitude and over the top straw-man extremism. Ana deserves an apology from you, and you would do well to consider apologizing to everyone involved. Scott
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