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Date:      Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:32:33 -0600
From:      Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
To:        Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        src-committers@FreeBSD.org, rpaulo@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, bz@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, anchie@FreeBSD.org, "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r211501 - in head/sys: modules modules/send netinet netinet6 sys
Message-ID:  <F198280F-6D5E-4620-9AB6-25E33FB6F726@samsco.org>
In-Reply-To: <4C718595.5050304@FreeBSD.org>
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On Aug 22, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 08/22/2010 12:42, M. Warner Losh wrote:
>=20
>> I think you're drawing the wrong conclusion here.
>=20
> Doubtful. :)
>=20
>> My point is that we have trusted folks in the past to do the right
>> thing, even when they don't say they will.
>=20
> And my point, which I will make one last time, is that this model =
hasn't worked. Yes, it works sometimes, but we still have a bunch of =
stuff that doesn't have _any_ man page at all. If we want to continue =
the transition to being a more professional OS that isn't acceptable.
>=20
> I've already made the points about why working through the =
documentation _before_ committing is valuable, and that the simple step =
of requiring this is an easy way to make sure the problem we have =
doesn't get any worse. Clearly there isn't a lot of sympathy for either =
of these perspectives in the wider community, so c'est la vie.
>=20
> But I was serious about my other comment, if you(pl.) are not willing =
to make a change to improve the situation, you lose the right to =
complain down the road when the man pages don't magically appear.
>=20
>> towards Ann
>=20
> Wrong name. :)
>=20

Doug, you're being a grade-A asshole in this entire discussion.  The =
merits of your argument are being completely overshadowed by your =
patronizing attitude and over the top straw-man extremism.  Ana deserves =
an apology from you, and you would do well to consider apologizing to =
everyone involved.

Scott




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