Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 16:28:46 -0700 From: Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> To: papowell@astart.com Cc: "freebsd-x11@freebsd.org" <x11@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Ports ML <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: kde4 packages, WITHOUT_NEW_XORG fails Message-ID: <CAN6yY1s17LhJvPKf6R-ZPQNKy3DNaGGpfmQ_kSkXzZaHQACroA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <53B735A6.7090803@astart.com> References: <53B6D2CE.1090604@astart.com> <CAN6yY1twB6J=8WKThkdF=fV26MWpRgr28HKFgAKzK3E1gw2k9Q@mail.gmail.com> <53B6FA75.6020302@astart.com> <CAN6yY1vdfmhFGKOGpZKidg2bVHq0o5sm4wNfA_Q=g0aJq1JRSw@mail.gmail.com> <53B71B56.5070009@rainbow-runner.nl> <53B735A6.7090803@astart.com>
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On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 4:15 PM, Patrick Powell <papowell@astart.com> wrote: > On 07/04/14 14:23, Koop Mast wrote: > [...] > On 4-7-2014 22:49, Kevin Oberman wrote: >> >>> >>> This discussion begs the question of why won't WITH_NEW_XORG work for >>> you? >>> I am aware of some pretty old hardware that simply has no support in >>> recent >>> Xorg servers, but these are pretty old by now. And, as time passes, the >>> bit >>> rot will make more and more things fail with the old code. >>> >>> I am far from an X expert, but a post to x11@ of the failure you see >>> WITH_NEW_XORG including the Xorg.0.log, /etc/make.conf, /etc/src.conf and >>> any Xorg.conf you are using might get things working (and might not). >>> x11@ >>> is a far better place to ask any of the questions about X issues. >>> >>> I should also recommend that, if you have not already tried, move your >>> Xorg.conf aside and let X try to configure itself. It is very rare to >>> require a full configuration these days. Most only need things for added >>> fonts and extra modules. The xorg.conf on my laptop is only about 27 >>> lines >>> long and mostly added fonts. >>> >> ports/UPDATING states: >> 20140218: >> AFFECTS: users of KDE SC 4 >> AUTHOR: kde@FreeBSD.org >> >> KDE SC ports have been updated to 4.12.2. kdeadmin, kdenetwork, kdesdk, >> and kdetoys ports have been split due to upstream changes. >> >> KDE Workspace port has been updated to 4.11.6. It requires modern >> Mesa libraries, provided by WITH_NEW_XORG knob. To update Xorg ports >> to newer version follow instructions at https://wiki.freebsd.org/ >> Graphics >> >> So it not possible anymore to run KDE4 with WITHOUT_NEW_XORG. >> >> -Koop >> >> Ahhh!!! I missed that. > > If this is the case, then perhaps the default for generating the PKGNG > repository should be WITH_NEW_XORG? > Then we could use the PKGNG respository for KDE4 applications. > > OR: we could have two repositories: one which uses WITHOUT_NEW_XORG and > has the old Xorg drivers and no KDE4 support and one with WITH_NEW_XORG > which has the new Xorg drivers and KDE4 support. > > I think I read some discussion about this possibility but I can't recall > the outcome. > Your timing is MOST excellent. Koop just announced those repositories were available a few hours ago. http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=306646+0+current/freebsd-announce The repositories cover 9.x and 10.x for i386 and amd64. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com
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