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Date:      Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:01:24 -0200
From:      "Daniel C. Sobral" <dcs@tcoip.com.br>
To:        Gordon Tetlow <gordont@gnf.org>
Cc:        Mike Makonnen <mtm@identd.net>, current@freebsd.org, obrien@freebsd.org, Doug Barton <DougB@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: RC NG, ntp and routed
Message-ID:  <3DF61DE4.9070205@tcoip.com.br>
In-Reply-To: <3DF4996E.1040706@tcoip.com.br>
References:  <3DF4996E.1040706@tcoip.com.br> <20021210024350.GC16008@matrix.identd.net> <20021210162208.GJ45512@roark.gnf.org>

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Gordon Tetlow wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 09, 2002 at 06:43:50PM -0800, Mike Makonnen wrote:
>
> >The following patch should solve your problem. However,
> >it's only a partial solution. It fixes the case for ntpd
> >and ntpdate but not for other network daemons like rpcbind, which 
> still get
> >started _before_ the routing daemons. I haven't included patches for
> >those because sorting out the dependencies is going to be a bit more
> >involved. I'll have it done when I get a chance later this week.
> >(A consequence of this is going to be that we will be moving *away* from
> > NetBSD in the dependency ordering, but we can sort that out with 
> them later).
>
>
> I think keeping our boot scripts the same is kind of a pipe dream. I think
> we should keep our rc.subr the same, but for individual scripts, I 
> think we
> should just go our own way.

I disagree. NetBSD uses the same ntpd as us, and, therefore, face the 
very same problem. They just haven't noticed the problem in practice.

On another note, I thought the patch a bit excessive. Here, I just added 
BEFORE: ntpd to routed. OTOH, it seems that patch did a bit more.

Anyway, as long as routed is run before ntpd on systems where it is 
active, I'm happy.

Nor do I think we need to get the patch in now, before 5.0-R. The kind 
of environment where the problem would show up is uncommon, and not 
likely to be found outside production settings, and 5.0-R is _not_ 
indicated for production settings.

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