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Date:      Tue, 5 Jan 2021 07:54:15 -0800 (PST)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
To:        Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com>
Cc:        rgrimes@freebsd.org, "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>, Emmanuel Vadot <manu@freebsd.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-all@freebsd.org, dev-commits-src-main@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: git: 2d486ba15f33 - main - pkgbase: Move bectl to the runtime package
Message-ID:  <202101051554.105FsFL7008161@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
In-Reply-To: <20210104220959.fb00d9ec75b43c3ed580ae37@bidouilliste.com>

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> On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 12:58:58 -0800 (PST)
> "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
> 
> > > On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 12:49:19 -0800 (PST)
> > > "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > The branch main has been updated by manu:
> > > > > 
> > > > > URL: https://cgit.FreeBSD.org/src/commit/?id=2d486ba15f3367072d631ee588192ef46687fa4b
> > > > > 
> > > > > commit 2d486ba15f3367072d631ee588192ef46687fa4b
> > > > > Author:     Emmanuel Vadot <manu@freebsd.org>
> > > > > AuthorDate: 2020-12-21 15:00:02 +0000
> > > > > Commit:     Emmanuel Vadot <manu@FreeBSD.org>
> > > > > CommitDate: 2021-01-04 15:17:12 +0000
> > > > > 
> > > > >     pkgbase: Move bectl to the runtime package
> > > > >     
> > > > >     runtime contain what is needed to boot in single user and repair a
> > > > >     system, bectl could be handy to have in this situation.
> > > > 
> > > > I would think it belongs in the zfs package,
> > > > as unless you have zfs you do not need bectrl.
> > > 
> > >  There is no zfs package.
> > 
> > I would consider that an oversight.
> 
>  I don't. We don't have a ufs package for example.

My understanding of the "big idea" of pkg base is to fine
grain feature install/removal, and I would consider support
for things like nfs, ufs, zfs to be along those lines
of fine grain.

> 
> > >  Having zfs is controlled by WITH/WITHOUT_ZFS and this is not related
> > > to pkgbase.
> > 
> > WITH/WITHOUT are compile time constructs, pkgbase is an install time
> > set of tools, why can there not be a zfs pkg?  
> 
>  pkgbase is just a reflection of what is built. There can be a zfs
> package nothing prevent us for having one. But as said in the commit

Great, then why dont we?  And to your "ufs" above could that be
added as well?  

> runtime is the package that should contain everything needed for
> booting to single user and repair a system so it contain zfs related
> tools (and ufs ones).

I thought the runtime package was the bits you MUST have to
build a running system, and nothing more.  Perhaps I have
misunderstood.


>  The idea behind runtime is that if you start upgrading and things
> break just after it you have all the tools to repair an install.

I would of called that the "systemrepair" package.

> 
> > > > 
> > > > >     
> > > > >     Differential Revision:  https://reviews.freebsd.org/D27708
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  lib/libbe/Makefile  | 1 +
> > > > >  sbin/bectl/Makefile | 1 +
> > > > >  2 files changed, 2 insertions(+)
> > > > > 
> > > > > diff --git a/lib/libbe/Makefile b/lib/libbe/Makefile
> > > > > index 291e2438ee2a..d1fab41578bf 100644
> > > > > --- a/lib/libbe/Makefile
> > > > > +++ b/lib/libbe/Makefile
> > > > > @@ -4,6 +4,7 @@ SHLIBDIR?=	/lib
> > > > >  
> > > > >  .include <src.opts.mk>
> > > > >  
> > > > > +PACKAGE=	runtime
> > > > >  LIB=		be
> > > > >  SHLIB_MAJOR=	1
> > > > >  SHLIB_MINOR=	0
> > > > > diff --git a/sbin/bectl/Makefile b/sbin/bectl/Makefile
> > > > > index 6fa84f48661d..46d43306b9ca 100644
> > > > > --- a/sbin/bectl/Makefile
> > > > > +++ b/sbin/bectl/Makefile
> > > > > @@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
> > > > >  
> > > > >  .include <src.opts.mk>
> > > > >  
> > > > > +PACKAGE=runtime
> > > > >  PROG=	bectl
> > > > >  MAN=	bectl.8
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes@freebsd.org
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com>
> > > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes@freebsd.org
> 
> 
> -- 
> Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com>
> 

-- 
Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes@freebsd.org



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