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Date:      23 Sep 1999 16:47:42 -0500
From:      Don Croyle <croyle@gelemna.ft-wayne.in.us>
To:        Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>
Cc:        current@freebsd.org
Subject:   On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups
Message-ID:  <86u2olfgg1.fsf@emerson.gelemna.ft-wayne.in.us>
In-Reply-To: Mark Murray's message of "Thu, 23 Sep 1999 14:15:31 %2B0200"
References:  <199909231215.OAA85963@gratis.grondar.za>

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Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za> writes:

[hub.freebsd.org now blocking IP adresses on the DUL]

> If you use your ISP's mailer as a "smarthost", you will avoid this
> problem.
> 
> Thos of us in the anti-spam community think thsat this is a Good
> Thing.

That's one way to cut down on support mail from new users, I suppose.
This is yet another feel-good measure that will end up doing at least
as much harm as good.

At a minimum the default freebsd.mc needs something like the attached
patch.  Something prominent in the FAQ and support for defining
SMART_HOST in sysinstall is probably called for as well.

--- freebsd.mc.orig	Sun Feb 28 14:52:06 1999
+++ freebsd.mc	Thu Sep 23 16:31:33 1999
@@ -53,6 +53,8 @@
 FEATURE(virtusertable, `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable')dnl
 dnl Uncomment to activate Realtime Blackhole List (recommended!)
 dnl FEATURE(rbl)dnl
+dnl Dialup users should uncomment and define this appropriately
+dnl define(`SMART_HOST', `your.isp.mail.server')dnl
 FEATURE(local_lmtp)dnl
 define(`LOCAL_MAILER_FLAGS', LOCAL_MAILER_FLAGS`'P)dnl
 define(`confCW_FILE', `-o /etc/mail/sendmail.cw')dnl

-- 
I've always wanted to be a dilettante, but I've never quite been ready
to make the commitment.


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