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Date:      Fri, 26 Mar 2021 20:18:43 +0000
From:      Bob Eager <rde@tavi.co.uk>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Cc:        Greg Rivers <gcr+freebsd-ports@tharned.org>
Subject:   Re: Python 2.7 removal outline
Message-ID:  <20210326201843.14fdca93@raksha.tavi.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <12069577.xkLNZX5ndW@no.place.like.home>
References:  <20210324130347.GA29020@freefall.freebsd.org> <8552dddf3bc33e42ae124cd4ea53fb4f@bsdforge.com> <14A27037-4174-4708-9AE3-16D599076639@gushi.org> <12069577.xkLNZX5ndW@no.place.like.home>

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On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:55:15 -0500
Greg Rivers via freebsd-ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org> wrote:

> On Friday, 26 March 2021 14:19:20 CDT Dan Mahoney (Ports) wrote:
> > More thoughts on mailman, specifically:
> >=20
> > So, I just went to find an old FB post I made about mailman 2.x:
> >=20
> > =3D=3D=3D
> > From the "Load Bearing B****it" department:
> > Pretty much the entire world is stuck using an EOL'd mailing list
> > manager (mailman 2.x), which depends on an EOL'd python (2.7). This
> > includes:
> > * All the gnu mailing lists
> > * All of the linux mailing lists at listman.redhat
> > * all the FreeBSD mailing lists
> > * all the sourceforge mailing lists
> > * all the IETF mailing lists
> > * all of lists.isc.org
> > * NANOG
> > =3D=3D=3D
> >=20
> > That?s an AWFUL LOT of sysadmins, network admins, and coders who
> > looked long and hard at Mailman 3 and decided ?that?s not ready
> > yet?.
> >=20
> > I think, if *nothing else*, tauthon needs to be stapled in for
> > mailman, even if it lives under /usr/local/mailman/bin or something
> > (and bakes in the couple of dependencies).
> >=20
> > I know about the archive incompatibility.  There *might* be a GSOC
> > project to fix it.  Maybe.  Other changes can happen with greater
> > use, but clearly there?s a first-mover disadvantage here.=20
> I concur. The thought of losing Mailman 2.x fills me with dread.
>=20

Me too. Short term, I shall have it in a non-updated jail.



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