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Date:      Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:35:25 -0500
From:      Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>
To:        Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org>, current@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: [heads up] axing AppleTalk and IPX/SPX
Message-ID:  <526E681D.9070405@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <20131028124221.GO52889@glebius.int.ru>
References:  <20131028124221.GO52889@glebius.int.ru>

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On 10/28/13 07:42, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
>   Hello!
>
>   [Cc to stable@, for wider audience]
>
>   The plan is two axe two old networking protocols from FreeBSD head/,
> meaning that FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE, available in couple of years would
> be shipped without them.
>
> 1) AppleTalk
>
>    Last time claimed to be supported by vendor in 2007[1]. In practice
>    had very little use since 90th.
>    Discontinued by major routing equipment vendors since 2009[2].

I actually still use this.

> Current status of these protocols in FreeBSD is "compilable". For the
> next couple of years, we plan a lot of changes in networking stack,
> many of which will require changing the protocols, as well. Keeping
> them in compilable state would require additional manpower, but it
> is very probable, that after all the changes they will be utterly
> broken, albeit compilable.

Given that Appletalk currently is in a much state than "compilable", how
serious are these changes?

> P.S. I account any objector as taker of maintainership :)
>

If they are minor, I volunteer for Appletalk. Otherwise, axe away...
-Nathan



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