Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 10:44:40 -0700 From: "Chris H" <bsd-lists@bsdforge.com> To: Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com>, Samuel Cassiba <sam@cassiba.com> Cc: FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry) Message-ID: <f6441540557726b5529356efdff20bfb@ultimatedns.net> In-Reply-To: <CAOqvHK9uE_LpwpH4W%2B-RskBd2y5yCfs-wmS8YJDvjZRWUCZ-cA@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAF6rxgk0GR6pj2hTQyHWPiu3c_9NyVb-JzOqPgYhWHW6QQqtmA@mail.gmail.com>, <CAOqvHK9uE_LpwpH4W%2B-RskBd2y5yCfs-wmS8YJDvjZRWUCZ-cA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 08:20:57 -0700 Samuel Cassiba <sam@cassiba.com> wrote > Eitan, > > This being posted on April 1 sets off my BS-o-meter, but I'll bite since > it's a topic worth shaving a yak or two over. > > WARNING: there be perceptions and opinions here > > Having been ephemerally associated with FreeBSD since early 4.x, I never .. > Again, I'm pretty sure this is just a April 1 troll, but it's all worth > saying since the topic was brought up. Lowering the barrier to entry is > good, but the act of doing so mustn't come at a detriment to quality. OK. I'll bite... IMHO I believe that the height of the bar, is directly proportionate to the quality of the product. --Chris > > > -Samuel > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > FreeBSD today has a significant problem of attracting new developers. > > The lack of new developers manifests itself in a dearth of driver > > support, inadequate documentation, and trailing third party packages. > > > > One of the key reasons for the lack of people is the high barrier of > > entry to joining the FreeBSD project. While every modern project uses > > git (usually hosted on github), FreeBSD uses self-hosted subversion. > > The use of git goes beyond just the choice of version control. It > > allows for workflows that FreeBSD can't even dream of. The linux > > kernel has no concept of a committer. Instead anyone can clone the > > git tree, build a kernel, and call themselves a Linux distribution. > > > > Our wiki and code review tools are in an even worse position than our > > repository. In order to contribute you need to send an email to > > clusteradm@ and hope they deem you worthy enough of access. The bug > > tracking system is in a better shape but isn't perfect: while any user > > can create an account, their privileges are limited: they can't help > > close out bad PRs, reclassify good ones, or do other generally useful > > work. > > > > To solve this problem I propose a simple solution: self-serve commit > > access. We create a web service on accounts.freebsd.org via which > > users can create themselves a freefall account. In addition to a > > freefall account, the identical username would be created for the wiki > > and phabricator, bugzilla, and any other service we might provide. > > > > This will allow us to quickly gain large number of contributors, who > > will be able to make better progress on our missing features, and > > rectify some of the drawbacks listed above. > > > > Today I hope we turn ourselves from the cathedral into a truly open > > and democratic project! > > > > > > -- > > Eitan Adler > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"
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