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Date:      Sat, 25 Apr 2026 07:36:59 +0200
From:      Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org>
To:        Charles Sprickman <spork@bway.net>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org, pkgbase@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [HEADS UP] stable/15: new base packages for PAM, zstd
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Hi!

> Where is the definitive documentation for pkgbase, conversion to
> same, and I guess really a general overview of what it is and "why"?

I collected the following links, also those just mentioned from vermaden@

https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/book/#pkgbase

https://github.com/FreeBSDFoundation/pkgbasify

https://wiki.freebsd.org/action/show/pkgbase

> On documentation in general, I am perhaps a weirdo about this,
> but many times I can't quite wrap my head around something until I
> have the "why" of it - then things generally fall into place really
> quickly for me...

>From what I've learned, initial installation of 'base' from packages
is roughly the same as before, but *updates* are easier to handle.

If you look at the freebsd-update script, the run time to
find which files need to be updated etc was always resource-intensive.
With a base system seperated in packages, the code from pkg
which allows to decide which pkg to update can be used.

I have no insight in the backend of freebsd-update, maybe Colin
can describe the pros and cons from that side ?

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