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Date:      Fri, 06 Nov 1998 21:33:37 +0100 (CET)
From:      Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
To:        Malartre <malartre@aei.ca>
Cc:        small@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: School Server & PicoBSD
Message-ID:  <XFMail.981106213337.asmodai@wxs.nl>
In-Reply-To: <36433B8E.78D0E8C1@aei.ca>

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On 06-Nov-98 Malartre wrote:
> Hi, I'm near 16 years old :-)

Hi mate, 20 here =)

> I would like to show at my school how FreeBSD is powerful, but also get
> some technical skills with servers. If the admin let me play with is
> stupid machine of course..

That's always the issue... Be careful, if ye get caught while not having the
authorisation ye might be in for some surprises =\

> We have something like 70-90 computers, (30 Macs, 30 WinNT and 30 Win95.
> I don't know why they buyed so much systems: it simply don't work
> properly.

What they using as default protocol? TCP/IP?

> When we are a class of people on the net at the same time, it can take
> up to 10 minute to load a page. The server is ... a WinNT+a hub
> solution.

So that means a 10 or 100 MBit shared uplink to the workstations. Class being
20 people?

> Has I never worked with WinNT and with Ethernet system, I would like to
> know:
> 
> -Is it a problem with Ethernet (I think they use 10baseT), WinNT or
> both?

Nah, Ethernet without SAP/RIP broadcast crap is very adequate and fast...
 
> -Would PicoBSD change that? (talking about speed)

Don't really think so... The hub is a problem IMHO... At my job we have a
dedicated Shiva router for the uplink to UUNet and packetswitch it to the
backbone...

> Because I would like to bring PicoBSD, simply enter it and reboot.

That might work. The booting that is... 

> The only job I want him to do is to act has a server(gateway?) to access
> internet.
> The main problem are:
> -I don't currently know the hardware of the server. But it's not
> bullshit I think. Certainly a P200 and +

Hardware might be a problem...

> -I never worked with Ethernet, I don't know the architecture of the
> school system.

Why should Ethernet stop ye? it's simply the cabling and lowerlevel
encapsulation of data...

> -PicoBSD would not have a swap partition (which could bring some
> problem, neh?)

Especially for WWW-proxies...

> Now, could it be possible to:
> Simply reboot with PicoBSD, configure the kernel (I know how to do
> that), configure the Ethernet(that's the real new part), reboot,
> working.

Configure the Ethernet? Not needed... Nope... Most likely, since it is one
server doing the Internet load it will need a www-proxy like Squid or the
likes...

> It would be a demonstration.
> 
> Would it be simple?

Depends on which aspect ye referring too. Booting? Aye. Overal picture? Nay.

> Should I use the router version?

Depends on what the Internet uplink is. 


HTH some,

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Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai
asmodai(at)wxs.nl
Junior Network/Security Specialist
FreeBSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve...

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