Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 09:33:45 -0400 From: "Louis A. Mamakos" <louie@TransSys.COM> To: Thomas Seck <tmseck-lists@netcologne.de> Cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Package system flaws? Message-ID: <200207141333.g6EDXj0L031673@whizzo.transsys.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 14 Jul 2002 11:59:39 %2B0200." <20020714095939.GA588@laurel.tmseck.homedns.org> References: <3D27A296.D58FB4B4@softweyr.com> <p05111745b94e9452f3b3@[128.113.24.47]> <p05111700b953ed16c118@[128.113.24.47]> <p05111701b953f38542f8@[128.113.24.47]> <20020712121427.GD3678@lummux.tchpc.tcd.ie> <20020712144854.GA756@laurel.tmseck.homedns.org> <20020713054141.A26277@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <20020713011750.GA755@laurel.tmseck.homedns.org> <20020714042237.GD931@lizzy.catnook.com> <20020714042623.GB95460@squall.waterspout.com> <20020714095939.GA588@laurel.tmseck.homedns.org>
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> * Will Andrews (will@csociety.org):
>
> > The people who do the work should do it the best way they can.
> > Or, with a volunteer twist, the most enjoyable way they can.
>
> Agreed. But portupgrade(1) is somewhat special, because it is the only
> way you can keep your locally installed packages up to date without
> thrashing your pkg db. It thus does the work that the pkg_* tools and
> the ports system should have been doing. People ask regularly why the
> tools of the sysutils/portupgrade port are not part of the base system.
> With them being written in anything else than C{,++}, sed, awk or sh
> this is impossible.
If you've decided to install optional software on your system using
the ports mechanism, then it doesn't seem too extreme a requirement
that you install a port or package to maintain your ports/packages.
cvsup isn't in the base system, but we manage to use it to keep both
the base system and ports up to date.
I suspect the only result of an attempt to re-write sysutils/portupgrade
in a different language will be that the current developer of that tool
will disappear. I suspect he chose his implementation lanaguge for a
reason. Do you want the tool and developer, or a version in awk/sed/C?
louie
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