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Date:      Tue, 3 Dec 1996 13:53:37 +1030 (CST)
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        davem@jenolan.rutgers.edu (David S. Miller)
Cc:        dyson@freebsd.org, dennis@etinc.com, kpneal@pobox.com, hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: TCP/IP bandwidth bragging
Message-ID:  <199612030323.NAA08269@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <199612030133.UAA18131@jenolan.caipgeneral> from "David S. Miller" at "Dec 2, 96 08:33:44 pm"

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David S. Miller stands accused of saying:
> 
> You can say whatever you want.  And whats more, I am told often by
> disgruntled Solaris performance engineers that lmbench is "bush
> league", that is perfectly fine with me.  My response is, if it is so
> bush leage, why is it so difficult for these systems to get better
> numbers than Linux?  Stay down.

Well, where to start.  Look at the author of "lmbench", and consider
the politics of his particular disease.

Then consider the SPECmark fiasco.  If you can't see the picture
clearly then, I'm happy to supply two-by-four correction.

> And watch out, I have gigabit ethernet and FDDI coming very soon as
> well.  SGI cannot even touch my bandwidth and latencies over 100baseT.

Who said anything about SGI?  If I sit down with an embedded processor
system and any sort of network-alive RTOS, I can make your numbers
look sick.  How'd you like a negative TCP latency?  It's not hard to
do; nor is 100% medium occupancy.

But that system's not going to run applications much better than Linux
does, and this brings us back to John's point; micro-level benchmarks
are for weiner-waving losers who fail to comprehend that computers are
for _doing_ things with.

> David S. Miller

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