Date: 06 Feb 2003 17:36:02 -0800 From: Joe Kelsey <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us> To: Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org> Cc: "Matthew N. Dodd" <winter@jurai.net>, Marc van Kempen <marc@bowtie.nl>, John Polstra <jdp@polstra.com>, "John L. Utz III" <john@utzweb.net>, Brent Verner <brent@rcfile.org>, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, rwatson@freesbsd.org, calvin.austin@sun.com, brian@collab.net, bod@freebsdfoundation.org Subject: Re: patchset 2 report (billh's resignation) Message-ID: <1044581762.84890.48.camel@zircon> In-Reply-To: <20030207010655.GB3899@gnuppy.monkey.org> References: <01E2A478-3A25-11D7-8CFD-0003930B8FFA@bowtie.nl> <20030206175143.E15295@sasami.jurai.net> <20030207010655.GB3899@gnuppy.monkey.org>
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On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 17:06, Bill Huey wrote: > On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 06:00:55PM -0500, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Marc van Kempen wrote: > > > If you'd just say "Bill you're an **** for insulting me the way that > > > you do, but I have since researched the mailing list and commit logs > > > and acknowledge that you have made a big contribution to the whole java > > > porting process and more specifically to the hotspot port, and we would > > > have certainly consulted you had I known." > > > > > > Now is that so hard? > > > > You know, one doesn't typically -demand- recognition. > > Not in a function group, no. But this isn't the case. > > > If you're working on something of your own volition "for fun" you can't > > seriously expect anything for your efforts. If you require some sort of > > compensation you're free make that a condition for others to use your > > work. > > Sure, you can. I can expect the my work be respect, recognized and that > this earns a kind of status in a group. That's the point of the entire > thing otherwise they're basically stealing my work without recognizing > me. The problem, Bill, is that your work does speak for itself. It speaks volumes about someone who fundamentally does not understand how to work in a group or to work within a specific porting framework. The Java project is better with Alexey working on it. /Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message
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