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Date:      Thu, 6 Oct 2005 18:27:58 -0400
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: new FreeBSD-webpage
Message-ID:  <20051006222758.GB49986@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <20051006221541.GA38659@neptune.atopia.net>
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On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 06:15:41PM -0400, Dan Ponte wrote:

> > > > > I second that all the way. Personally, I feel that the FreeBSD pr=
oject
> > > > > is doing too much in the way of appearing "trendy" to attract new=
 users,
> > > > > and it's at the expense of its existing userbase. Not to mention =
that
> > > > > the old site rendered perfectly in elinks, while the new one is a=
 mess
> > > > > (scrolling all over the place).
> > > >=20
> > > > Thanks for sharing your opinion, but you forgot to explain how a new
> > > > website will make existing FreeBSD users stop using the operating
> > > > system.
> > > >=20
> > > > Kris
> > > I should have worded that differently. By "expense" I didn't mean that
> > > the existing userbase would shrink, but, rather, it would be at a
> > > disadvantage to it. Though, I don't think that anyone would have truly
> > > seen it as the former.
> >=20
> > If you think the new design truly puts you at some kind of
> > disadvantage, you should formulate constructive ideas for how to fix
> > that.
> >=20
> > Kris
> It certainly does put me at a disadvantage; see the statements made by
> the earlier author.

About elinks?  That can probably be optimized.  It's certainly not
clear this is a fundamental problem.

> One idea is to revert to the old design, which suited people's needs
> just fine. However, I doubt that will happen.

Right, because I said "constructive" and that would be the very
opposite.

Kris

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