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Date:      Wed, 07 Jun 2000 11:57:29 +0100
From:      "Koster, K.J." <K.J.Koster@kpn.com>
To:        'Curt Sampson' <cjs@cynic.net>
Cc:        freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: JDK status?
Message-ID:  <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D7602@l04.research.kpn.com>

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> > At this time, everyone is free to download the patches and 
> > build his own JDK after signing the SCSL. Even without a binary
> > distribution option, we can make a killer port out of this baby.
> 
> Sure, but what's the point if nobody can use it. Most of the world
> is not interested in getting a source license and building it
> themselves.
>
You are right. It would severly limit the number of people that use the
port. I was just thinking for myself, I guess.

> 
> > Nate Williams just made a unofficial, off-the-record, speculative
> > pre-announcement on freebsd-java. Basically he says that at 
> > JavaOne there should be a happy surprise for Java/FreeBSD people.
> 
> Yeah, but this worries me, because where does this leave the NetBSD
> folks? I hope this isn't going to be `FreeBSD gets to join the
> little clique with Linux whilst all other free software is left
> out in the cold.'
> 
I have no intention of joining any cliques. I'm sorry if that is the
impression it leaves.

We are building our effort on the fact that Java's number one RFE is to get
a JDK port out for FreeBSD. I think that if we went to Sun saying: "Please
open your stuff for the world", they would be a lot harder to persuade than
now that we can say: "We are solving your number 1 RFE, in fact, look, we've
got most of it running already. All we'd like you to give us the legal
goahead and we'll do the work."

Once FreeBSD moved from the list of "other operating systems", Sun will see
that it's not at all that painful. In fact, it may even get them some
favourable press.

Based on the FreeBSD port, other BSD's can build their own port quite
quickly, and repeat the cycle that FreeBSD has done: get a working (well,
limping) JDK, talk to Sun, get backing. The other BSD's should be able to
have a much shorter cycle.

    Kees Jan

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