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Date:      Tue, 2 Jan 2001 16:30:55 +0200
From:      Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org>
To:        Gerhard Sittig <Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: OT: silence as an answer? (was: how to test out cron.c changes?)
Message-ID:  <20010102163055.A65068@mithrandr.moria.org>
In-Reply-To: <20010102125247.U253@speedy.gsinet>; from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net on Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 12:52:47PM %2B0100
References:  <200011191816.KAA81473@freefall.freebsd.org> <20001119214008.Z27042@speedy.gsinet> <20001120143658.B4415@netmode.ece.ntua.gr> <20001120193326.C27042@speedy.gsinet> <20001205225656.Z27042@speedy.gsinet> <20001220211548.T253@speedy.gsinet> <3A513799.75EAB470@FreeBSD.org> <20010102125247.U253@speedy.gsinet>

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On Tue 2001-01-02 (12:52), Gerhard Sittig wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 18:06 -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
> > Gerhard Sittig wrote:
> > > 
> > > [ ... reminder after two weeks of silence ... ]
> > 
> > Two weeks of silence is generally enough to let you know that
> > no one is interested in this modification. If someone was,
> > they'd generally have said something by now. 
> 
> Well, I don't come to the same conclusion here as you do and I'm
> not so sure about it as you are. :)  Silence as I see it is just
> a sign for "nobody answered", without a reason to see why.  It
> could be work load or being offline or getting side tracked or
> whatever as well as being not interested or disagreeing.  And
> finally I want to take the lack of disagreement (or the absence
> of its statement) as a sign for "it's not completely wrong what I
> want to do here".  

I tend to agree here - silence could mean many things.  In this case, I
can't see why people wouldn't want this - it's something that gets
brought up time and again.

> The experience will make me think twice next time if I'm in the
> mood of spending my resources in the will to help and contribute
> just to find myself sitting there ignored.  Would I really feel
> like having this kind of conversation, I could as well open my
> fridge and talk to it ... :-|

I think we can put this current silence down to holidays and getting
sidetracked while trying to think of a reply - the question isn't
particularly easy to answer, and people don't generally answer "I don't
know". (:

I remember reading this, and thinking "gee, what _is_ a good way to test
DST changes?", and then promptly forgetting about it, because I never
really deal with DST changes.  I think the only way is the hard way -
changing the date in increments and testing whether extra or no jobs are
run.

Neil
-- 
Neil Blakey-Milner
nbm@mithrandr.moria.org


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