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Date:      Tue, 17 Jan 2012 20:48:14 -0600
From:      "Matthew D. Fuller" <fullermd@over-yonder.net>
To:        Igor Mozolevsky <igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk>
Cc:        Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Andriy Gapon <avg@freebsd.org>, Ian Lepore <freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle
Message-ID:  <20120118024814.GF509@over-yonder.net>
In-Reply-To: <CADWvR2iK2dTXda9dpPRDHt8tKQz720oQJLLnBmmDWu1nFvGoiA@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.1112211415580.19710@kozubik.com> <op.v78i3yxi34t2sn@tech304> <4F15C44F.1030208@freebsd.org> <1326836797.1669.234.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <4F16019F.2060300@FreeBSD.org> <1326843399.1669.249.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <4F160B99.1060001@FreeBSD.org> <CADWvR2jdeu6R%2BmX1n2Uz1WUBcZ=BKWSDB4nR-rEv_P4jAZg3HQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAF6rxgkvucnpjQOrL70TBqsitttQDPhqfxOr%2BB7QWmSe8JfL2Q@mail.gmail.com> <CADWvR2iK2dTXda9dpPRDHt8tKQz720oQJLLnBmmDWu1nFvGoiA@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 01:41:53AM +0000 I heard the voice of
Igor Mozolevsky, and lo! it spake thus:
> 
> The problem, however, lies in the time between a patch is submitted
> and is "picked up", if the latter ever occurs!.. That is where the
> discouragement occurs.

Quite.  For instance, we're now well past the 3 year mark since I
submitted docs/127908, which fixes 1 sentence in a manpage.  So far, I
can't see that anybody but me has ever looked at it.  That doesn't
serve to encourage me to nibble at anything substantial.


(In fairness, I should note that I also maintain several ports, and so
submit a steady trickle of PR's there.  Almost none of them take more
than a week from submission to application and closing, and it's
fairly common for it to be less than 24 hours.  I know the ports team
carries a huge load with such things, but they're carrying it well.)


-- 
Matthew Fuller     (MF4839)   |  fullermd@over-yonder.net
Systems/Network Administrator |  http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/
           On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream.



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