Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2003 22:01:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Harti Brandt <brandt@fokus.fraunhofer.de> To: Dan Naumov <dan.naumov@ofw.fi> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Removing Sendmail Message-ID: <20030402215654.K29076@beagle.fokus.fraunhofer.de> In-Reply-To: <20030402225427.586c463a.dan.naumov@ofw.fi> References: <3E8B093D.4010500@liwing.de> <XFMail.20030402142930.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20030402225427.586c463a.dan.naumov@ofw.fi>
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On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Dan Naumov wrote: DN>On Wed, 02 Apr 2003 14:29:30 -0500 (EST) DN>John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> wrote: DN> DN>> I find an odd situation here whenever this topic comes up. One the DN>> one hand, people are always wanting to split the entire base system DN>> up into small packages for each little piece of the base. On the DN>> other hand, one of FreeBSD's selling points in real-world environments DN>> is that it doesn't have a bunch of little packages for the base system DN>> like Linux distros. Do people really prefer something like having DN>> rpm's for /bin/ps to having one lump base dist for all of /bin, /sbin, DN>> etc.? DN> DN>It really depends on where you draw the line. Personally, I'd rather DN>have a very minimal base system that's kept as a "whole" with additional DN>packages avaible for those who want them. Basically if I was to decide DN>on such things, I'd throw out CVS, BIND, g77, GDB, OpenSSL, SendMail, DN>games and crypto out of base and making them avaible through ports. But DN>that's all IMHO and not very likely to happen to FreeBSD in my lifetime DN>;) I hope so. I have two fears with regard to splitting up the system: things in ports will start to rot. Developers will 'make world' and this will just compile the basic stuff. People will forget about the packages. Second, the last time I tried Linux (this was a couple of years ago) I got immediatly tired of foo-X.Y needs libbar-A.B bar-Z.T needs libbar-C.D and unfortunately you cannot have libbar-A.B and libbar-C.D together. Splitting up without dependencies between the packages is likely to be very hard if not impossible. harti -- harti brandt, http://www.fokus.fraunhofer.de/research/cc/cats/employees/hartmut.brandt/private brandt@fokus.fraunhofer.de, harti@freebsd.org
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