Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:00:06 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG> To: Will Andrews <will@physics.purdue.edu> Cc: Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com>, asami@FreeBSD.ORG, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: We seriously need a cleanup on ftp-master Message-ID: <20010507150006.C12252@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <20010507164650.J3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu>; from will@physics.purdue.edu on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 04:46:50PM -0500 References: <20010507125604P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010507163119.H3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> <20010507144618.A12252@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010507164650.J3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu>
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On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 04:46:50PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote:
> > Should we think more carefully about this? We have users that install a
> > release and stick with it for a long time. But they still like to be
> > able to install packages with minimal effort. Do we want to break these
> > case? I guess this is one argument for having `pkg_add -r' use
> > package-<branch>-stable rather than package-<release>.
>
> Yes, but if you move the bits to FreeBSD-archive, they can just reset
> the prefix of their installs and/or use PACKAGESITE.
You have a lot of faith in our users. I don't participate in
questions@freebsd.org, so I do what I can to avoid having to send people
there. I don't care about moving say 4.1-R packages to somewhere very
hard to find as I don't have any 4.1-R hosts anymore, but I do know
people that do. I brought this up with the hopes that we will stop and
take a moment to thing about the ramifications. That's all.
> Er.. I didn't say remove them, I said put them in FreeBSD-archive
> instead.
Er, no one will mirror them from FreeBSD-archive. So where will they get
them from? ftp-master.freebsd.org is not for user consumption.
> I simply think it's inconvenient for mirror operators to host bits that
> are not obtained even one-tenth of 1% of the time as the newest
> releases/packages. Not everyone has 50GB of disk space to dedicate
> to FreeBSD, and I don't see a reason to expect that. :)
If it is truly just a disk space issue, we should investigate if we can
get subsidized disks for well-connected mirrors.
Heck, 50GB is a typical personal MP3 collection.
BW is really the issue, what is expensive, and what we lack.
--
-- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)
Disclaimer: Not speaking for FreeBSD, just expressing my own opinion.
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