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Date:      Fri, 7 Feb 2003 02:36:32 -0600 (CST)
From:      Chris Dillon <cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us>
To:        Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>
Cc:        Max Khon <fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru>, Marc van Kempen <marc@bowtie.nl>, John Polstra <jdp@polstra.com>, "John L. Utz III" <john@utzweb.net>, Brent Verner <brent@rcfile.org>, freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, rwatson@freesbsd.org, calvin.austin@sun.com, brian@collab.net, bod@freebsdfoundation.org
Subject:   Re: patchset 2 report (billh's resignation)
Message-ID:  <20030207013834.U10604@duey.wolves.k12.mo.us>
In-Reply-To: <20030207011437.GE3899@gnuppy.monkey.org>
References:  <20030206202913.GA2285@gnuppy.monkey.org> <01E2A478-3A25-11D7-8CFD-0003930B8FFA@bowtie.nl> <20030207062013.A46600@iclub.nsu.ru> <20030207011437.GE3899@gnuppy.monkey.org>

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On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Bill Huey wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 06:20:13AM +0600, Max Khon wrote:
> > They asked glewis and nate. Isn't that enough? Someone invested
> > some amount of money and they have given it to Alexey. That's
> > simple.
>
> No way, they did so without understanding a preexisting and implicit
> political structure in this group. I have always been apart of the
> inner circle until Nate decided to go completely nuts and feel
> threatened by my involvement with the project.

Might as well throw my two cents in, since everybody else already
has...  It seems to me that, if I understand what I've read in this
huge thread correctly, your beef stems from the FF not understanding
the "political structure" of the Java group.  This non-understanding
results in the FF handing out money to the wrong person, in your eyes.
Now, here come the million-dollar questions:  How was the FF supposed
to know of this political structure or even of your existence?  Is it
common knowledge?  Has it been plastered all over the front pages of
newspapers?  Was it handed down from Above on stone tablets?
Apparently it was none of the above, so they ask the only two people
they have as contacts in the project who they should give the money
to.  They don't contact you, because they don't even know you exist.
You can't expect them to "just know".  They apparently had no reason
to distrust the input of their contacts, so things proceeded
accordingly.  Now, not letting the most recent events cloud rational
thought, how is the FF initially overlooking you in any way their
fault?


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