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Date:      Mon, 20 Oct 2014 14:33:20 -0400
From:      Nikolai Lifanov <lifanov@mail.lifanov.com>
To:        Rainer Duffner <rainer@ultra-secure.de>,  David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-current Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Voxer using FreeBSD, BSDNow.tv interview
Message-ID:  <54455570.8070808@mail.lifanov.com>
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On 10/20/14 13:36, Rainer Duffner wrote:
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>> Am 20.10.2014 um 10:19 schrieb David Chisnall <theraven@FreeBSD.org>:
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>> I presume that most of the relevant differences are for users / developers and not sysadmins?  It's worth noting that GNU coreutils, tar, bash, and a load of other things are in the ports repository.  I wonder if it's worth having a gnu-userland metaport, perhaps with something like the Solaris approach of sticking them all in a different tree so that you can just add that to the start of your PATH and have all of the GNU tools work by default.  
>>
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> 
> They use chef.
> The chef omnibus installer assumes there is a /bin/bash. Even the FreeBSD version of it. Well, it least it did the last time I looked. Maybe this got fixed in the meantime.
> Which means that to „bootstrap“ a node, you’ve first got to install pkg on it, install bash, symlink it to /bin/bash and then bootstrap the node.
> Which kind of runs against the concept of doing everything via chef.
> 
> 
> 

Hi from sysutils/ansible maintainer!

The ansible port REINPLACE_CMDs away hardcoded paths at build time. This
way managing FreeBSD "just works". Maybe chef can benefit from the same
approach?

- Nikolai Lifanov




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