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Date:      Wed, 03 Oct 2001 14:34:51 -0600
From:      Lyndon Nerenberg <lyndon@atg.aciworldwide.com>
To:        nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams)
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: uucp user shell and home directory 
Message-ID:  <200110032034.f93KYp8f031893@atg.aciworldwide.com>
In-Reply-To: Message from Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>  of "Wed, 03 Oct 2001 14:12:25 MDT." <15291.28969.437046.367082@nomad.yogotech.com> 

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> Do you mean 'full-time IP connectivity', because if you can setup a UUCP
> connection, you can just as easily setup a PPP connection over the same
> medium, giving you IP connectivity.

True, but there's a lot more infrastructure overhead involved in
setting up a group of disconnected machines via dialup IP than
there is connecting them via UUCP. And where dialup time is precious
UUCP is the hands-down winner for not wasting any of that dialup
resource.

> therefore doesn't belong in the mainstream release.  It *is* still
> available as an add-on port, so those who need it can still get it

So the base distribution contains /bin/sh, /sbin/init, and
/sbin/pkg_add? Me, I like my bikesheds painted in white and green
zebra stripes.

>   Finally, the security
> issues make it a non-starter to keep in the default distribution.

I would like to see evidence of where --config is *required* to
make someone's UUCP setup work. And what percentage of the overall
UUCP user population are represented by those people? I still
contend the "problem" can be fixed by removing --config. While that
fix will apparently impact some people, the impact of that fix is
a lot lower than ripping out UUCP altogether.


--lyndon

We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce
the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know
this is not true.
			-- Robert Wilensky, University of California

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