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Date:      Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:43:41 +0200
From:      Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        "Matthew N. Dodd" <winter@jurai.net>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Contributors, or lack thereof
Message-ID:  <19990910084341.J71369@daemon.ninth-circle.org>
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990909020227.045a31b0@localhost>
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* Brett Glass (brett@lariat.org) [990909 13:14]:
>At 12:48 AM 9/9/99 -0400, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:
>
>>Well, you didn't say advocacy strategies, you said 'contributors to the
>>code base', so changing arguements here isn't going to work.
>
>I'm not "changing arguments;" I'm making two distinct points. First,
>contributions to the code base are impeded by ego, territoriality,
>and elitism. Second, contributions that DON'T involve code are
>considered to be second-rate, even if they're needed very bit as
>much as code.

You haven't been paying attention have you?

1) You _do_ either switch arguments or start rambling off about
   something completely different and totally unrelated to the
   question asked or a statement made.

2) Where do you get the ridiculous idea that non-code submissions are
   second-rate? I don't consider -doc to be coders, they do things on
   a totally other level and on a level which I value as much as code
   being put in by, for example, a Matthew, Alfred, Brian, Peter, 
   Dag-Erling, Bruce, to name but a few. Nik, Neil, Mike, Chris and a
   few other -doc guys have my respect for their efforts and they
   prolyl know it. They earned it by chipping in their expertise. The
   same goes for what Dan Langille, Jim Mock and now a couple of others
   are doing with their supportive (Free)BSD websites. They also have
   my respect. With all the respect for what you did in the past I have
   not seen anything from you since early January, not even the tiniest
   pr or otherwise a constructive piece of whatever except constantly
   debating what the future will be like on either -advocacy or -chat.
   If we were all like you as you are on this point, then, aye, the
   FreeBSD Project would be dead. However, we chose NOT to be like you
   and we're thriving.

Have a nice day Brett and stop make us wasting our time to time and
again point out your silliness in the statements you tend to make.

[and if you wonder why I don't reply when you reply, it's simply
 because I have things to do which I consider more important]

-- 
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai                  asmodai(at)wxs.nl
The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project <http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai>;
Network/Security Specialist        BSD: Technical excellence at its best
A frightened mental vortex we will be, a Sun we seek, a Sun we flee...


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