Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 23:23:24 +0100 (CET) From: aaron <aaron@meta.lo-res.org> To: Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org> Cc: Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>, Joe Halpin <joe.halpin@attbi.com>, "current@FreeBSD.ORG" <current@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: spam Message-ID: <20011222225555.G62982-100000@meta.lo-res.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0112221127490.63554-100000@InterJet.elischer.org>
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On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Julian Elischer wrote: > I would suggest that we use a 'modified' subscription method, > where simply being mentionned in the list is enough to subscribe.. > > Now, before you laugh.. there's a twist.. > any address found in the archives is automatically subscribed > and that includes in the text.. also any mail not subscribed it treated > as if it were a moderated list. i.e. sent for OK to someone. > once that peson OKs it the person can send mail. I'd suggest that there be (...) > the mail will subscribe the sender. Julian, I think your idea and mine were pretty close. I believe the goals are: a) not to slow down -current or -hackers by moderation (=> use many moderators as you noted) b) distribute power of moderation (*) c) use technology as much as possible for automation of subscription (thats why I suggested public keys and signatures, since they are a safe indicator that somebody is not imposting as someone else via mail headers) and finally d) keep it as simple as possible I believe your idea would work out great and it would not force people to use gpg/pgp (cf point d). On the other hand signatures seem to be the only way to make sure a certain mail is in fact coming from a subscribed person. Given the current load on -current a process checking each incoming mail for 1) having a sig 2) having a valid sig 3) checking if a certain pub key of a certain subscriber maches the sig - should not be such a problem. Anyway.... I would like to hear how others feel about that. ---- (*) I could imagine something like: there are n moderators and when the mail arrives m (m << n) random moderators are forwarded the new mail. It is sufficient if one of the m moderators accepts the message as not being spam. So if a submitter feels left out by some moderator chances are higher his/her message will be accepted the next time by a different moderator - as long as it is not spam :) If the -current subscribers would want such a scheme I would be happy to help in any way needed. Let me know. greetings, Aaron Kaplan. --- COSHER = Completely Open Source, Headers, Engineering, and Research To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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