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Date:      Fri, 1 Jun 2018 01:38:29 +0200
From:      Oliver Pinter <oliver.pinter@hardenedbsd.org>
To:        Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org>
Cc:        Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.com>, "jmaloney@ixsystems.com" <jmaloney@ixsystems.com>,  "deischen@freebsd.org" <deischen@freebsd.org>, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>,  freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver
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On Friday, June 1, 2018, Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 05/31/2018 15:34, Oliver Pinter wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, May 31, 2018, Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:34 PM Joe Maloney <jmaloney@ixsystems.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I personally wish that more drivers, and firmware were separated from
>>>> base.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not a committer
>>>
>>
>>
>>> If you are not a committer,  how and why want to remove drm2 from the
>> base
>> system?
>>
> Johannes did not start this threat.  A committer, Niclas Zeising, did.
> Johannes has stepped up and done a ton of work (along with many others,
> some committers and some not) to get modern intel and amd GPU's working
> under freebsd.


>
True. Yes I agree that their work is hard and it's a very big step forward
for supporting modern hardwares. And it's required modern desktops, but
please don't break the existing ones. This is my only request, probably it
was expressed in a harsh way, sorry.



>
>
> this was something that was a gaping hole in freebsd when this work
> started a bit over a year ago, and i'm not sure why more committers weren't
> embarrassed by this gap nor motivated to chip in.
>
> regardless - not sure why you'd take his comment out of context :/ the
> full quote was:
> "I'm not a committer but as I understand there's not pre-commit
> integration tests.. If one had that, plus that it would test build kmod
> ports against the pre-commit state of head as well, then maybe this would
> work."
>
> not really sure what's controversial about that statement which would
> prompt your reply - but i guess people dedicating their spare time to help
> create useful things for others shouldn't go unpunished.
>
> well i guess i broke my promise to ignore this bikeshed :(
>
> -p
>
> --
> Pete Wright
> pete@nomadlogic.org
> @nomadlogicLA
>
>



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