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Date:      Thu, 20 Jan 2005 10:00:52 +0200
From:      Panagiotis Astithas <past@ebs.gr>
To:        Ian G <iang@iang.org>
Cc:        java@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [RFC] ia64/sparc64 jdk 1.5.0 ports?
Message-ID:  <41EF6534.4090704@ebs.gr>
In-Reply-To: <41EEB8CE.9030009@iang.org>
References:  <20050119142601.GA75697@phantom.cris.net> <41EE8E27.1010301@ebs.gr> <41EEB8CE.9030009@iang.org>

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Ian G wrote:
> Panagiotis Astithas wrote:
> 
>>  "that might consider deploying FreeBSD..."
> 
> 
> 
> Given the amount of work in getting Java to run
> on FreeBSD, I think it's a bit of a stretch to think
> about "maybes."  It's wonderful to think of all
> these platforms that FreeBSD could run on, and
> Sparc machines are nice .... but (!) some poor
> muggins has to do the work, and when they are
> doing Sparc work, it means they are *not* doing
> other work.
> 
> (Thanks for all that work, guys!)

I had the same reservations about other platform support and that is why 
I said I am "not sure either should be high-priority items". But then I 
considered that it is other people's time and effort we are talking 
about, so who am I to tell them what to do :-)

> Also, those very same institutions
> (banks mostly) will quite happily buy another
> commodity PC if they want to play around with
> (Java on) FreeBSD.  The cost of the management of
> an OS on a commodity PC is well in excess of the
> value of the PC, for a bank.  It's IMHO a mistake
> to think that old hardware has anything but
> negative cost associated with it, banks would
> be burning up money just even thinking about
> putting another OS on it for fun....
> 
> All IMHO!
> 
> iang
> 

The organizations I had in mind were mostly from the academic and ISP 
world. Publicly funded universities in particular have large deployments 
of Sun hardware from the 90's and are always on a tight budget, at least 
here in Greece. They are also large adopters of grids and grid-like 
infrastructure for scientific reasearch (not necessarily IT-related), so 
they seem like a good fit. The best new though is that quite a few of 
them are consolidating their infrastructure on FreeBSD.

For deployment in banks I agree with you. Not to mention that their 
staff here have this saying, that "nobody got fired for buying IBM" :-)


Cheers,

Panagiotis



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