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Date:      Sat, 26 Dec 1998 11:13:46 +1030
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@flood.ping.uio.no>
Cc:        Mark Ovens <marko@uk.radan.com>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Regulated names (was: Crazy Laws)
Message-ID:  <19981226111346.A12346@freebie.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <xzppv985uit.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>; from Dag-Erling Smorgrav on Fri, Dec 25, 1998 at 12:30:02PM %2B0100
References:  <368102F5.C90B94D5@uk.radan.com> <19981224102628.S12346@freebie.lemis.com> <36822D20.DCF23B22@uk.radan.com> <19981225100225.H12346@freebie.lemis.com> <xzppv985uit.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>

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On Friday, 25 December 1998 at 12:30:02 +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com> writes:
>> Right.  The way they see it, they are interpreting the French laws,
>> which state (after translation through German into English) that a
>> woman does not gain possession of the surname of her husband, but that
>> by universal agreement, she uses it (presumably for the duration of
>> the marriage).
>
> My humble opinion on this matter is that this is bullshit.

It's partially bullshit.  It's basically legal nitpicking.  The
Germans don't understand the French terms.

>>                 As a result, my wife is Yvonne Koedderitzsch (good
>> French name, that) épouse Lehey.
>
> AFAIK, in France she may choose between keeping her maiden name, or
> taking her husband's name. I'll ask my mother for the details if you
> want.

At the time (1985), the wife didn't gain *possession* of the husband's
name, not even if it was in the marriage contract.  Ollivier indicates
that this has changed.  Things even changed in Germany: just before we
left, Yvonne was allowed to make a voluntary declaration allowing her
to use my surname.  The Germans made it very clear that this
declaration only applied to Germany and had no validity outside the
country.  They still didn't understand.

> (Is Ködderitzsch an Alsacian name btw?)

No.  It's a long, complicated story.  At a first approximation,
consider it Swiss.

Greg
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