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Date:      Tue, 12 Jul 2016 12:26:20 +0200
From:      Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de>
To:        Daniel Kalchev <daniel@digsys.bg>
Cc:        Matthew Seaman <matthew@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: GOST in OPENSSL_BASE
Message-ID:  <F22E238A-4262-4684-9623-3FDE25CE78E9@lastsummer.de>
In-Reply-To: <C2F596E2-B417-4DC2-A195-60CFAB6399F5@digsys.bg>
References:  <20160710133019.GD20831@zxy.spb.ru> <f35c1806-c06d-0d46-1c8a-58a56adef9a7@freebsd.org> <a4f0585d-cc99-e44a-7f59-0dd23e3c969f@FreeBSD.org> <20160711184122.GP46309@zxy.spb.ru> <98f27660-47ff-d212-8c50-9e6e1cd52e0b@freebsd.org> <c0bb5ae3-fee6-d40c-86bd-988c843d757b@freebsd.org> <CAN6yY1sOrL42ssbfGUKz8%2BaY0VvKPDHPx2S0ZRNpmmgdB0V8Tg@mail.gmail.com> <a8214f32-ce90-3b97-678a-faad7c6d0b69@freebsd.org> <C2F596E2-B417-4DC2-A195-60CFAB6399F5@digsys.bg>

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> On 12 Jul 2016, at 11:59 AM, Daniel Kalchev <daniel@digsys.bg> wrote:
>=20
> It is trivial to play MTIM with this protocol and in fact, there are =
commercially available =E2=80=9Csolutions=E2=80=9D for =E2=80=9Csecuring =
one=E2=80=99s corporate network=E2=80=9D that doe exactly that. Some =
believe this is with the knowledge and approval of the corporation, but =
who is to say what the black box actually does and whose interests it =
serves?

It's also trivial to ignore that pinning certificates and using client
certificates can actually help a great deal to prevent all of what you
just said.  ;)

The bottom line is not having GOST support readily available could =
alienate
a whole lot of businesses.  Not wanting those downstream use cases will =
make
those shift elsewhere and the decision will be seen as an overly =
political
move that in no possible way reflects the motivation of community =
growth.


Cheers,
Franco=



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