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Date:      Fri, 18 Sep 2020 11:11:53 +0800
From:      Marcelo Araujo <araujobsdport@gmail.com>
To:        Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
Cc:        Daniel Eischen <deischen@freebsd.org>, Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@freebsd.org>, Ed Maste <emaste@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Deprecating ftpd in the FreeBSD base system?
Message-ID:  <CAOfEmZi%2BT6BZAbQd9w7V%2B-GfMcKdktkB0SjzM%2BvY-BwA-DiU8g@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Sep 17, 2020, 11:55 PM Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
wrote:

> In message <451538DE-9427-4584-987B-8E4AA26C2981@freebsd.org>, Daniel
> Eischen w
> rites:
> >
> >
> > > On Sep 17, 2020, at 11:20 AM, Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@freebsd.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BFRe: removing HTTP client please no!!! The current d=
rive to "outlaw"
> HTTP
> > > coming from companies who see all world via web browser. Totally
> ignoring
> > > the fact that HTTP !=3D HTTPS in particular in cases where reliabilit=
y
> and
> > > lower complexity of the system takes precedence over on-the-wire
> protocol
> > > security. For example, many internal APIs of AWS EC2 are HTTP.
> >
> > Agree.  And remember the mantra: tools, not policy.
>
> Since there are so many I'll pick this email to reply to.
>
> libfetch should be designed to call plugins. An https plugin, http plugin=
,
> ftp plugin, sftp plugin, and so on. New protocols are added as needed,
> preferably to ports before they are mainstream. Old protocols are removed
> and moved to ports. People who still need to use old protocols can instal=
l
> the port which plugs into libfetch. When a protocol becomes stale it's
> forgotten, no longer maintained and simply disappears into the ether.
>

Thinking in this way, very soon we need to remove TCP, UDP, IP and the list
growing, they are all stale.



> Given that pkgbase will become a reality at some point the line between
> base and ports will blur. I expect at some point some of what we see in
> base to simply become ports. As a developer of both base and ports, ports
> are much easier to maintain than importing into base.
>
> That's my vision.
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com>
> FreeBSD UNIX:  <cy@FreeBSD.org>   Web:  https://FreeBSD.org
> NTP:           <cy@nwtime.org>    Web:  https://nwtime.org
>
>         The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.
>
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