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Date:      Fri, 19 Apr 2002 15:24:19 -0700
From:      Brian Nelson <bnelson@paypal.com>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Security Advisory FreeBSD-SA-02:21.tcpip
Message-ID:  <3CC09913.4010605@paypal.com>
References:  <4.3.2.7.2.20020419161047.0360e970@nospam.lariat.org>

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Brett Glass wrote:
> At 04:07 PM 4/19/2002, Doug Barton wrote:
> 
> 
>>I long ago forgot what it was like to be a new
>>FreeBSD user, 
> 
> 
> This is part of the problem here. We should care a lot about
> newcomers' experience, and respect the fact that no matter
> how bright they are they cannot learn everything at once.
> Expecting a new user to master CVSup is unreasonable.
> 
> --Brett
> 
> 
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Let's apply this logic to other places in our lives....

Licenses for people with an inability to learn to drive should be 
easier.  Perhaps the DMV should start distributing chauffeurs for those 
unable to learn to drive?  This, of course, will be a free service.

People who do not know how to run their own businesses should be given a 
staff, salary, idea, and business process, all for free. (!)

If you don't know how to do dentistry (golsh, that's tougher then 
CVSup!), there should be an easy, free, "do it at home for free(!)" kit. 
  You simply plug this free device into your mouth and whammo, no dental 
woes.

'Expecting a new user to master CVSup is unreasonable.' -- sounds liek 
you're volountering to engineer a solution.  Go do it and stfu.

Until then, I am adding a to/from/body filter that if it includes your 
name, it goes right to the trash.  When I see the "Super n00b FreeBSD 
Install by Brett Glass", this filter will be removed.




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