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Date:      Mon, 2 Dec 1996 21:46:34 -0800 (PST)
From:      Snob Art Genre <ben@narcissus.ml.org>
To:        "David S. Miller" <davem@jenolan.rutgers.edu>
Cc:        jkh@time.cdrom.com, dyson@FreeBSD.org, dennis@etinc.com, kpneal@pobox.com, hackers@FreeBSD.org, torvalds@cs.helsinki.fi, lm@engr.sgi.com, iain@sbs.de, sparclinux@vger.rutgers.edu
Subject:   Re: TCP/IP bandwidth bragging
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.91.961202214209.29819I-100000@narcissus.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <199612030217.VAA18178@jenolan.caipgeneral>

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On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, David S. Miller wrote:

> And as for the marketdroid's tally sheet, that sells machines
> pinhead.  If you think it does not, why does the government spec

Why do you come to our list and call a respected member of our community 
a pinhead?  You've been treated civilly; return the favor, please.  

> lmbench numbers for all purchases these days?  What concrete numbers
> are you able to put on that tally sheet?  None, because whatever
> benchmarks the freebsd people are using to perform their improvements
> are under lock and key, most likely because once the Linux crowd had
> these at their disposal, we'd fix the problems they show because
> they'd be trivial.  I'm not concerned.
> 
> I think it is funny how the Linux crowd brags about numbers that
> anyone can grab the sources for and run for themselves.  Whereas the
> freebsd people brag about performance characteristics that they claim
> _they_ can test and get numbers for, but the rest of the world has to
> wonder whether such benchmarks even exist.

Whatever.  What evidence can you produce for this?  It sounds to me like 
you made it up.  I haven't seen a whole lot of benchmark bragging from 
FreeBSDers, nor from anyone else, really.

 
> So my performance translates into real world, so I don't want to hear
> your whining over this matter any more.

Where do you think you are?  You are acting like the children one might
find on PC BBSs eight years ago.
 
> Oh yes, and our main Linux mail server btw runs SparcLinux, over a 100
> lists, the most active ones (say 10 or so) have many thousands of
> subscribers.  It is multiuser, holds all my CVS sources, has a full
> FTP archive, and runs an actively used web server.  Oh and btw, this
> is a dinky 40MHz SparcClassic (4k I and D caches, thats it) with 40MB
> of ram and two SCSI disks.  The load never goes over 4.

This proves to me once again what I've believed for years: free unixes 
are excellent.

> ---------------------------------------------////
> Yow! 11.26 MB/s remote host TCP bandwidth & ////
> 199 usec remote TCP latency over 100Mb/s   ////
> ethernet.  Beat that!                     ////
> -----------------------------------------////__________  o
> David S. Miller, davem@caip.rutgers.edu /_____________/ / // /_/ ><
> 



 Ben

The views expressed above are not those of the Worker's Compensation 
Board of Queensland, Australia.





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