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Date:      Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:55:56 +0800
From:      Ganbold <ganbold@micom.mng.net>
To:        Michael Nottebrock <michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org, kde@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, Adriaan de Groot <groot@kde.org>, Robert Marella <rmarella@gmail.com>, Beni <beni@brinckman.info>
Subject:   Re: [kde-freebsd] problem hal - k3b ?
Message-ID:  <46281DAC.7090508@micom.mng.net>
In-Reply-To: <200704200105.22646.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>
References:  <200704182205.52028.beni@brinckman.info> <200704191812.50545.lofi@freebsd.org> <200704192000.15405.groot@kde.org> <200704200105.22646.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net>

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Michael Nottebrock wrote:
> I forwarded my mail to gnome@ (the HAL maintainers) after sending it and Joe 
> Marcus Clarke from gnome@ had this to say on the issue:
>
> --- snip
>
> This should have been fixed a while ago by jylefort when he set the
> default device for ATAPI access to be the ATAPICAM device (as opposed to
> the ATA device).  Assuming you have not undone that change, and are
> running the latest version of HAL, these panics should not be occurring.
>
> Even still, you're right that these are not HAL bugs, but rather an
> issue in the kernel.  I use nautilus-cd-burner to burn CDs in GNOME, and
> I have never had such a panic on 6-STABLE.  n-c-b uses cdrecord, cdrao,
> and dvd-utils under the covers to do the actual device work.  Not sure
> what k3b is using, but maybe it diddles something it shouldn't.
>
> Joe
>
> --- snip
>
> Beni, Robert, Ganbold, are you all in fact running the latest version of the 
> hal port and do you all have atapicam enabled in your kernel? If not, making 
> sure of both might help avoiding the problem.
>   

I see. I know I have updated my system last Saturday (14th April 2007) and
I think I updated both hal and kdelibs ports. I have atapicam enabled in 
kernel.
Let me double check it this weekend and I will let you know.

thanks,

Ganbold


>   
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject:
> Re: Fwd: Re: [kde-freebsd] problem hal - k3b ?
> From:
> Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@freebsd.org>
> Date:
> Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:49:26 -0400
> To:
> Michael Nottebrock <lofi@freebsd.org>
>
> To:
> Michael Nottebrock <lofi@freebsd.org>
> CC:
> gnome@freebsd.org
>
>
> Michael Nottebrock wrote:
>   
>> I forgot to cc gnome@ on my reply. I don't think this is a HAL bug, but just 
>> FYI.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Subject:
>> Re: [kde-freebsd] problem hal - k3b ?
>> From:
>> Michael Nottebrock <lofi@freebsd.org>
>> Date:
>> Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:12:46 +0200
>> To:
>> kde@freebsd.org
>>
>> To:
>> kde@freebsd.org
>> CC:
>> Beni <beni@brinckman.info>, h.eichmann@gmx.de, current@freebsd.org,
>> stable@freebsd.org
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 18. April 2007, Beni wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi List,
>>>
>>> I think I have a problem with hal(d) and k3b (version 1.0 from ports) : my
>>> whole system freezes when starting up k3b. I get the splash screen and then
>>> it all stops and a ctrl-alt-del is the only way out.
>>>       
>> Other people have reported kernel panics. It looks to me like k3b's device 
>> probing and hald's device probing at the same time manages to tickle a bug in 
>> ata(4).
>>
>> Ref: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2007-April/070753.html
>>      http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2007-April/034486.html
>>
>> I'm afraid a true kernel hacker will have to inconvenince themselves with 
>> running k3b and hal in order to have this one fixed. FWIW, I haven't seen in 
>> happening on 5.5.
>>     
>
> This should have been fixed a while ago by jylefort when he set the
> default device for ATAPI access to be the ATAPICAM device (as opposed to
> the ATA device).  Assuming you have not undone that change, and are
> running the latest version of HAL, these panics should not be occurring.
>
> Even still, you're right that these are not HAL bugs, but rather an
> issue in the kernel.  I use nautilus-cd-burner to burn CDs in GNOME, and
> I have never had such a panic on 6-STABLE.  n-c-b uses cdrecord, cdrao,
> and dvd-utils under the covers to do the actual device work.  Not sure
> what k3b is using, but maybe it diddles something it shouldn't.
>
> Joe
>
>   




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